High fare difference charged when uncomfortable with connection time
My wife and I are booked in paid C to Antigua in November. After a disastrous experience on the ground in TLV last week (we can walk but not for long distances and UA did not have wheelchairs for us there), my wife was worried that we might not make a connecting flight from EWR to AG in November. I called and was told that last week the flight from IAD-EWR arrived at 7:53 while the flight to AG from EWR left from a different terminal at 8:30. It is virtually impossible to get to the EWR-IAD in time if the IAD-EWR flight arrives at 7:53. So I rebooked us for the previous evening to get to EWR and stay over night so that we could get up and get on the EWR-AG flight. We were thus charged $3600 for a "voluntary" change fee. I have sent an email to the executive office demanding credit (not mileage or coupons). Does anyone have any other ideas to get United to accept the fact that this was not a "purely voluntary" change that I have to pay?
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Originally Posted by euslaner
(Post 34338406)
We were thus charged $3600 for a "voluntary" change fee. I have sent an email to the executive office demanding credit (not mileage or coupons). Does anyone have any other ideas to get United to accept the fact that this was not a "purely voluntary" change that I have to pay?
I don't understand how you're claiming it's not voluntary, unless there was a schedule change involved? You didn't mention any. |
Sounds like a voluntary change and subject to change in fare. Not sure what basis you can demand money back.
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If UA can't make the connection, they need to change the flights.
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I must say I find it intriguing that you called UA to ask for a better connection, they quoted you a $3600 fare difference ... you accept ... and then you write to the executive office 'demanding credit'?
Unless there is more to this story I find it hard to believe you will hear a favorable response from UA on this. |
If the flights booked and still scheduled meet the MCT (regardless of what a flight last week did), and there has been no significant schedule change, this is a voluntary change in airline terms. Understand you may be having concerns on the connection, but it is what was booked and to change is voluntary. It is important to make arrangements with UA in EWR to have the assistance you need. What happened in TLV, understanding it happened to you, is not a reason to get a waiver of the fare difference.
As mentioned, this is not a "change fee" but a fare difference due to a close in change.
Originally Posted by euslaner
(Post 34338436)
If UA can't make the connection, they need to change the flights.
Again what happened for a particular flight in the past is of no bearing. If UA is late in arriving, they own the responsibility of getting you to you destination. |
Past performance does not guarantee future results. One flight that was delayed in the past will mean that your flight in November will be delayed.
Also, no one forced you to make a change, hence why it's voluntary. |
Checking availability, the other flights require being in the air for over 24 hours. They can charge me what they want. Doesn;'t mean I have to fly them in the future. When you pay top dollar for a seat up front, if they can't be flexible after a mess-up last week, they don;t deserve my continued business.
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Originally Posted by euslaner
(Post 34338578)
Checking availability, the other flights require being in the air for over 24 hours. They can charge me what they want. Doesn;'t mean I have to fly them in the future. When you pay top dollar for a seat up front, if they can't be flexible after a mess-up last week, they don;t deserve my continued business.
If you'd come to FT before you made any changes, people would have had quite a few suggestions that might have helped. As it is, I can't think of anything that's likely to get you a refund, unless the fare itself happens to be refundable: in which case, cancel and refund it, and start over. Book EWR-ANU / ANU-EWR-IAD on one ticket, and IAD-EWR on another (or take the train). |
Not trying to add insult to the injury, but for the future, here are few additional options:
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Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 34338649)
So, you had a bad situation, tangentially related to UA. (Wheelchairs are operated by locally-staffed vendors).
To the OP: While I agree with the others that you made a number of missteps here and you may not get the satisfaction you're looking for, if your wheelchair-related experience at TLV was indeed disastrous then I'd recommend that you make an ACAA complaint to the DOT about that specifically: https://www.transportation.gov/airco...umer-complaint |
Originally Posted by euslaner
(Post 34338578)
…if they can't be flexible after a mess-up last week, they don;t deserve my continued business.
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Originally Posted by Sykes
(Post 34338735)
While I agree with pretty much everything else here, I'd argue that it is 100% on UA rather than tangentially related. While it's true that they outsource wheelchair services at most (all?) stations, ultimately United is still the entity legally responsible for "promptly" providing wheelchair assistance. Excusing them because a vendor failed to provide timely wheelchair assistance would be the same as excusing them because Gate Gourmet provided terrible meals or their below-the-wing outsourcer mishandled baggage.
Now, you could certainly blame UA ground staff for not being proactive enough about tracking down the wheelchair, or if their systems lost the wheelchair request, or something like that. But if the issue was that the contractor failed to show up, it may be UA's responsibility, but it doesn't necessarily mean any other airline would have done any better. |
Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 34338782)
Now, you could certainly blame UA ground staff for not being proactive enough about tracking down the wheelchair, or if their systems lost the wheelchair request, or something like that. But if the issue was that the contractor failed to show up, it may be UA's responsibility, but it doesn't necessarily mean any other airline would have done any better.
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Also, for the future, United sells “departure/connection/arrival” services branded as “Signature Service”. Similar to AA’s Five Star service, United’s connection service would assign you a team to manage your flights, grab you and transport you to your next gate, etc. Helpful for those that need extra dedicated help at the airport but that don’t want to rely on the airport’s special needs services.
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