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UA 33 NRT-LAX 6/14 diverts to HNL due to disruptive passenger

UA 33 NRT-LAX 6/14 diverts to HNL due to disruptive passenger

Old Jun 14, 22, 6:04 pm
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UA 33 NRT-LAX 6/14 diverts to HNL due to disruptive passenger

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Disruption prompts United Airlines flight to Los Angeles to land at Honolulu airport | Honolulu Star-Advertiser (staradvertiser.com)
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Old Jun 14, 22, 7:35 pm
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Wouldn't ANC have been a closer airport to the flight path?
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Old Jun 14, 22, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Fanjet View Post
Wouldn't ANC have been a closer airport to the flight path?
Limited options?

A total of 238 passengers and 12 crew members were aboard the flight. United Airlines has offered passengers hotels and re-booking options.
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Old Jun 14, 22, 7:39 pm
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Pretty tough for the other pax... landed 7am, their original continuing segment was going to be a redeye to LAX but that was cancelled, so now the plane isn't leaving until Wednesday morning. I hope a bunch of them could be reaccomodated on the Tuesday afternoon 77W since everything else is NB that are probably tight on available seats.

Diversion https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...805Z/RJAA/PHNL
Original continuation https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...810Z/PHNL/KLAX
Rescheduled continuation https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...840Z/PHNL/KLAX

Originally Posted by Fanjet View Post
Wouldn't ANC have been a closer airport to the flight path?
No, at the diversion point they were 300nm+ closer to HNL than ANC; the eastbound TPACs tend to fly pretty flat to make the most of the winds. Not to mention better staffed at HNL than ANC.
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Old Jun 14, 22, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Fanjet View Post
Wouldn't ANC have been a closer airport to the flight path?
Not a UA crew station, no replacement crews, fewer routing alternatives for passengers and HNL was closer or no more
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Pretty tough for the other pax....
Completely understand and agree with the sentiment

But OTOH…Hawaii
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
the westbound TPACs tend to fly pretty flat to make the most of the winds.
I think you mean eastbound.
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Old Jun 14, 22, 8:45 pm
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From Flightradar24, it looks like nearly 3 hours from when they turned toward HNL to when they landed. That is a really long time to be in the air if the person was dangerous (not that they had any other options).
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Old Jun 14, 22, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Pretty tough for the other pax... landed 7am, their original continuing segment was going to be a redeye to LAX but that was cancelled, so now the plane isn't leaving until Wednesday morning. I hope a bunch of them could be reaccomodated on the Tuesday afternoon 77W since everything else is NB that are probably tight on available seats.

Diversion https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...805Z/RJAA/PHNL
Original continuation https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...810Z/PHNL/KLAX
Rescheduled continuation https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...840Z/PHNL/KLAX



No, at the diversion point they were 300nm+ closer to HNL than ANC; the westbound TPACs tend to fly pretty flat to make the most of the winds. Not to mention better staffed at HNL than ANC.
Flat relative to what? Mercator? Great circle? This flight was pretty much on the pacific track prior to diversion which had a partial circle component to it.


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Originally Posted by prestonh View Post
Flat relative to what? Mercator? Great circle? This flight was pretty much on the pacific track prior to diversion which had a partial circle component to it.

Flat relative to great circle. Flight plan was not a great circle routing. A partial/kinda circle that still made it closer to HNL.
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Old Jun 14, 22, 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer View Post
Flat relative to great circle. Flight plan was not a great circle routing. A partial/kinda circle that still made it closer to HNL.
Technically great circle is 'flat' distance wise on a sphere. So I'm not sure I understand what flat means in this reference
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Old Jun 14, 22, 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by prestonh View Post
Technically great circle is 'flat' distance wise on a sphere. So I'm not sure I understand what flat means in this reference
Flat across the globe
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Originally Posted by Fanjet View Post
Wouldn't ANC have been a closer airport to the flight path?
According to flightaware they diverted at 37.8167,-175.3333.

Great Circle Mapper puts the distance as 1,541 miles to HNL, and 1,950 miles to ANC.

HNL is 200 miles further from LAX than ANC, but in a divert thats not really the concern, especially given the much better support available in HNL.
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Old Jun 15, 22, 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
landed 7am, their original continuing segment was going to be a redeye to LAX but that was cancelled, so now the plane isn't leaving until Wednesday morning.
Yeah looks like crew timed out and they're waiting for them to achieve adequate rest before continuing as opposed to ferrying another crew in to operate a recovery flight (either don't have crew to spare [at least a few probably need to be language qualified given this originated in NRT] or want to incur the cost of displacing passengers to deadhead a crew).

Originally Posted by mduell View Post
. I hope a bunch of them could be reaccomodated on the Tuesday afternoon 77W since everything else is NB that are probably tight on available seats.
Probably few, if any, could be reaccommodated. Hawaii flights are full, especially that given up until this past Sunday it was the go to booking destination for people who wanted to get away but not have to deal with COVID testing/risk testing positive before their return from vacation. Also feels like daily UA is cancelling at least one flight from one of the islands which doesn't help when capacity is already filled on their routes.

Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Pretty tough for the other pax...
Mixed bag for the pax I'm sure. For the ones who needed to be somewhere, sucks. For the ones who are flexible and not in a hurry to get back, it's great, essentially a free day long vacation in Hawaii, especially as UA provides amenities for everyone since this was a diversion.
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Old Jun 15, 22, 8:18 am
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Surprised they diverted to HNL for that. How much further would it have been to just continue to LAX? 3 hours to get to HNL and 4.5 to get to LAX? 3 hours is still a long time.
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