General discussion of UA's inflight service (Domestic / International, all cabins)
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#151
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I don’t think the majors have the will to put out the fire right now. What can they really do? Fire them and just stop service?
#152
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But UA should continue to insist that when wearing UA uniforms, SkyWest FAs follow UA protocol. It's not about whether anyone needs a drink on a one hour flight. Rather, it is that this is part of the bargained for exchange, even if secondary to safe and on-time transport. By failing to offer service, SkyWest reflects horribly on UA because most passengers don't know the difference. They only see the United Airlines livery on the aircraft exterior.
#153
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
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AA is ahead of UA in terms of food on transcon flights. 2 entree choices (chicken or ravioli), salad, and surprise dessert all on one tray - as evidenced in this thread. There is a small cheese plate or hummus plate snack before landing.
The LAX United Club does have better offerings than Admiral's Club.
The LAX United Club does have better offerings than Admiral's Club.
- four entree choices (with option to pre-order)
- appetizer and salad served before entree
- choice of three desserts (sundae, fruit/cheese or some form of cake or tart) served after the entree
I think the only difference now compared to pre-COVID is no PDB and the nuts were not warm
Last edited by dw; Jan 14, 22 at 1:44 pm
#154
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I used to go out of my way to get SkyWest over Mesa or Republic. Not anymore. DFW/IAH Mainline/Mesa service in F. SkyWest nothing. 4 times on them and never changes.
#155
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Those Denver meals have got to be a new low for United catering - quite an achievement when you think of all the other contenders over the past 2 years.
#156
#157
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As a comparison, AA as of early November reverted premium transcon service in Business nearly back to what it was pre-COVID:
- four entree choices (with option to pre-order)
- appetizer and salad served before entree
- choice of three desserts (sundae, fruit/cheese or some form of cake or tart) served after the entree
I think the only difference now compared to pre-COVID is no PDB and the nuts were not warm
- four entree choices (with option to pre-order)
- appetizer and salad served before entree
- choice of three desserts (sundae, fruit/cheese or some form of cake or tart) served after the entree
I think the only difference now compared to pre-COVID is no PDB and the nuts were not warm
You can also pre-order meals online.
#158
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: UA silver, Bonvoy gold
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UA is providing J service to PP on those routes. AA gives that cabin ECONOMY service (if they sell PE at all)
Plus, the non flagship routes still serve cold sandwiches. We are serving hot sandwiches for the 2-4 hour routes
#159
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Talking about economy, at least AA provides an edible meal (sandwich/chips - dinner, bagel/yogurt - breakfast) in coach. UA? A choice of a tiny bag of snack for 5-6 hours.
#160
Join Date: Jun 2021
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AA utilizes A321T on JFK-LAX/SFO routes. Only First, Business, and Economy (MCE + regular), no PE, so not sure what you are talking about.
Talking about economy, at least AA provides an edible meal (sandwich/chips - dinner, bagel/yogurt - breakfast) in coach. UA? A choice of a tiny bag of snack for 5-6 hours.
Talking about economy, at least AA provides an edible meal (sandwich/chips - dinner, bagel/yogurt - breakfast) in coach. UA? A choice of a tiny bag of snack for 5-6 hours.
DFW-Hawaii, they sell PE, but give economy service
UA sells PP on the transcons and Hawaii and give J meals
#161
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#162
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Indeed, this is a major problem and the solution is not to fire them - that's an empty threat.
But UA should continue to insist that when wearing UA uniforms, SkyWest FAs follow UA protocol. It's not about whether anyone needs a drink on a one hour flight. Rather, it is that this is part of the bargained for exchange, even if secondary to safe and on-time transport. By failing to offer service, SkyWest reflects horribly on UA because most passengers don't know the difference. They only see the United Airlines livery on the aircraft exterior.
But UA should continue to insist that when wearing UA uniforms, SkyWest FAs follow UA protocol. It's not about whether anyone needs a drink on a one hour flight. Rather, it is that this is part of the bargained for exchange, even if secondary to safe and on-time transport. By failing to offer service, SkyWest reflects horribly on UA because most passengers don't know the difference. They only see the United Airlines livery on the aircraft exterior.
Some passengers might have an expectation, others might not care, but it is definitely not part of the bargained for exchange. If anyone doubts this, call United and say you will buy a ticket but only if they write drink service into the contract, and see what happens.
#163
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Location: HNL
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There is an actual contract, a literal bargained for exchange, and it says NOTHING about a drink being included.
Some passengers might have an expectation, others might not care, but it is definitely not part of the bargained for exchange. If anyone doubts this, call United and say you will buy a ticket but only if they write drink service into the contract, and see what happens.
Some passengers might have an expectation, others might not care, but it is definitely not part of the bargained for exchange. If anyone doubts this, call United and say you will buy a ticket but only if they write drink service into the contract, and see what happens.
With that said - not much AS, DL, AA, and UA can do about Southwest short of replacing them which won’t happen.
#164
Join Date: Feb 2020
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This is not a cogent argument, There are lots of things that are not in the actual contract of carriage, including getting you there on time, assigned seats, and service levels that are nonetheless part of a set of passenger expectations which United has shown a vested interest in meeting; hence compensation when a flight is late, catering fails, premium lie-flat seats don't work as they should..... none of these are in 'the contract'
#165
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This is not a cogent argument, There are lots of things that are not in the actual contract of carriage, including getting you there on time, assigned seats, and service levels that are nonetheless part of a set of passenger expectations which United has shown a vested interest in meeting; hence compensation when a flight is late, catering fails, premium lie-flat seats don't work as they should..... none of these are in 'the contract'