COVID19 UA-Schedule {Archive}

    Hide Wikipost
Old May 7, 22, 7:05 am   -   Wikipost
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Wiki Link
Active thread; UA-Schedule changes; +25% TATL 2022 capacity, Q2 TPAC down 65% vs 2019; June changes

UA publishes a schedule for 330 days in advance (called Beginning of Schedule) and in the past would make tweaks quarterly and things would be fairly settles 3-4 months out. Updates would occur Friday evening / Saturday morning (Chicago time). Routine additions could occur anytime.
20 Oct 2021
Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
In the earnings call today, UA noted that has been transitioning back to its 'normal' (pre-pandemic) 90-day schedule load process, which should be complete in the very near future.
However, during the COVID era, UA has gone to a more dynamic and shorter-term setting of schedule (as has the other carriers). Presently UA, while UA is still publishing a schedule for 330 days in advance it reflects pre-COVID operational levels and is considered just a placeholder schedule. Then 3-5 weeks prior to a month, UA makes a major update of that month's schedule.

Examples (Major updates)
The October 2020 schedule was updated 4-5 September 2020
The November 2020 schedule was updated 2-3 October 2020
The December 2020 schedule was updated 30-31 October 2020
Holidays can move the major date a week earlier or later.
Weekly updates are still generally done over night Friday-Saturday (Chicago)

UA does not publish a summary of most schedule changes but a variety of sources below do and summaries / links of those sources can be found in this thread & wiki.


Always crosscheck with UA's Travel Notices , Coronavirus (COVID-19) travel waivers and information, www.united.com/coronavirus as the situation is dynamic

17 May 2021 United Airlines Takes Big Step Toward Returning July Flying to Pre-Pandemic Levels
23 April 2021 United Airlines Continues to Build Summer Network, Adding Over 480 Daily Flights to its U.S. June Schedule
25 March 2021 United Airlines Adds New Direct Flights to Coastal Vacation Destinations Starting Memorial Day Weekend -- include updated on international routes also
11 Nov We are Back! United Announces Return to New York's JFK Airport
09 Nov Responding to Thanksgiving Travel Demand, United Adds Over 1,400 Domestic Flights to Schedule
16 Oct United Airlines Announces Eight New Routes and Increases Flights to 19 Destinations in the Caribbean, Central America and Mexico for Winter Sun-Seekers
02 Oct United Airlines Plans to Increase Service on More than 40 Caribbean and Mexican Beach Routes in November
09 Sept United Airlines Strengthens Global Network, Adding New Nonstops to Africa, India and Hawaii
04 Sept United Strategically Adds Limited Capacity to October Schedule
18 Aug United Airlines Doubles Service Between San Francisco and Shanghai
12 Aug Adjusting to Customer Demand, United Adds New Nonstop Service to Florida
31 July United Airlines Plans to Resume Service on More Than 25 International Routes in September post
01 July - From UA Hub, United Airlines Adds Nearly 25,000 Flights in August , post 2888
09 June -- From UA Hub, Summer 2020 route network schedule update

RoutesOnLine reports
20 Nov United mulls additional capacity cuts in the fourth quarter[/utl]
10 Nov
United seeks to take advantage of Thanksgiving holiday demand
19 Oct United adds more Latin America routes
16 Oct United plans aggressive competition on transcon routes from JFK
05 Oct United to serve China nonstop, plans more leisure resumptions
02 Oct United NW20 Long-Haul operations as of 02OCT20 post
09 Sept United Airlines adds Africa, India and Hawaii routes
04 Sept United Airlines Sep/Oct 2020 Intercontinental operations as of 04SEP20
13 Aug United targets Florida sunseekers from non-hubs
03 Aug More international routes return to Uniteds network
01 Aug United August - October 2020 Long-Haul operation changes as of 01AUG20
29 May United NS20 Long-Haul operation changes as of 29MAY20
02 May United 2Q20 Interim Long-Haul and NS20 update as of 0215GMT 02MAY20
02 May United 2Q20 Interim and NS20 Guam / Micronesia Island Hopper update as of 0215GMT 02MAY20
20 April COVID-19: North America market update - all carriers
18 April United NS20 {Summer 2020) Long-Haul operations as of 0400GMT 18APR20


**** The OAG weekly updates are no longer available on airlines.net ****
OAG Changes 3/2/2021: AA+ORD-BIL/FAT/GEG/ONT/SBA; B6+BOI,LGADEN,EWR-ACK/ANU/BQN/MVY/POP/SEA/STT/UVF; DL+CNY/DRO/LNK; NK; WN . post
OAG Changes 2/23/2021:AA In BOS-CMH/TVC,JFK-BOG/CLO/MDE/SCL/SNA,LGA-MCI/MYR/PNS;SY DFWSNA;UA In DENTWF,IADLWB,Out ORDOGS . post
OAG Changes 2/16/2021: AA Add PHX-ACV/BZN/CID/IDA,CLTAZS,DFWIDA,LAX-DRO/MSO,MIA-PBM/TLV; NK +CAKMYR; UA Cut HAV,Add HNLSNA . post
OAG Changes 2/9/2021: AA CLT-JAC/MHH/RNO; AV to ONT; DL Ends Some RDU/CVG/MIA Focus Routes, Adds LAX-IAH/OAK; UA Cuts SMX . post
OAG Changes 2/2/2021: AA DABPHL; AS Cuts EWRSJC,LAXORD,PHLSFO,PAE-BOI/PDX,More; F9 Axes 31 Routes; SY Expands; UA SJT; WN . post
OAG Changes 1/27/2021:3M to GSP; AA JFK-ATH/TLV; DL LGA-EYW/HHH/MYR,JFK-ACK/MVY; F9 New Routes; NK MCO-PAP/SDQ;WN FAT/SBA . post
OAG Changes 1/13/2021: DL Adds SEA-CUN/PVR/SJD,MSP-ESC;UA Adds IAD-ECP/PNS,ORD-FOD/MCW,IAH-SRQ Flights FEB-SEP . post
OAG Changes 1/5/2021: DL Resumes RDU-AUS/JAX/LAS, Ups FLL to 3X;B6 Trims MAR . post
OAG Changes 12/29/2020:B6 Adds EWRATL; DL Returns to JNU/KTN/SIT,SEA-TUS/PSP,BGRLGA,Exits CUNCVG;EI Leaves BDL/PHL
. post
OAG Changes 12/22/2020: Dozens of New Routes AA/B6/F9/NK/UA/WN;AA Exits VCE/MVD/EDI/PRG;BA Exits CHS/PIT/LGWJFK;UA to FAI . post
OAG Changes 12/15/2020:QR Into JFKMXP!;DL Drops CVG-BDL/CLT/MCI/STL,RDU-AUS/CLE/CMH/PIT,LAX-OMA/SAN,INDMCO,BDLCLE;AA Feb . post
OAG Changes 12/8/2020:Q1 Takedown AA/BA/DL/G4/NK/UA;UA Adds ORD-RDM . post
OAG Changes 12/1/2020: DL Cuts JAN More;4B Adds MSL-PNS; G4's New SNA Routes,Adds AZA-HOU (Phoenix-Houston) . post
OAG Changes 11/24/2020:AA Closes HPN/IPT/SWF;AS Adds SAN-SMF;WN Reveals SAV/SRQ Routes,HNL-LGB;DL Moves RSW-LGA to JFK . post
OAG Changes 11/17/2020: DL Guts JAN/FEB;UA Adds DEN-ECP/VPS/PNS/PBI/SRQ,JFK;LA BOG-MIA;CX Ends EWR/IAD/SEA . post
OAG Changes 11/10/2020: DL+MSPSRQ;F9 Out ICTDEN,Some Carib;LH Pauses 7 Routes;NK+SNAPHX;UA Pauses SMX . post
OAG Changes 11/3/2020:STOP THE HAMMERING;WN Suspends 100 Routes Till Mid-MAR;AA +EYW-MCO/TPA,SAVORD;B6 +JFKGEO . post
OAG Changes 10/27/2020: DL PSP-SEA,CUN-CVG/RDU,EYWLGA Daily;UA Adds BER Breaks Curse,Extends Sun Adds;4B BWIORF,EUGPDX . post
OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXSAP . post
OAG Changes 10/13/2020:ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT;ET Switches ABJ for LFW;AM Exits DTWMTY;WN +MIA/MTY/PSP . post
OAG Changes 10/6/2020:UPHEAVAL;B6 Suspends SJC/ONT/BUR,Closes ORH/SWF?;NK Adds CAP;UA Adds JST/VCT;WN Adds Many Routes . post
OAG Changes 9/29/2020:STOP THE BLEEDING!;B6 Adds BDL Routes;DL Adds SLC-ANC,FLL-LAX,PVD Gone till March;UA Adds EWR-OGG . post
OAG Changes 9/22/2020:PSP on everybody;AA Adds PHX-LAP/LTO;DL Exits ORH;UA Suspends HAV . post
OAG Changes 9/15/2020:AI Adds DELEWR,Cuts DELORD;DL Adds Winter LAXRNO;EK Suspends MCO;FI/KL/UA Suspend Long Haul Routes . post
OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MHT post
OAG Changes 9/1/2020:AA Adds PHX-BIL/BIS/BNA/CVG/TUL/YYC,CLT-FSD,JFK-SJD;AS to JAC;DL Drops BZN-SEA,Reverses Carib Cuts post
OAG Changes 8/25/2020:Cuts Begin for 21;DL DROPS NUMEROUS ROUTES INTL ROUTES FOR SUMMER 2021, Adds SEA-ONT,MSP-TVC post
OAG Changes 8/18/2020:FALL FALLING;AA/AS/DL Cuts;AC Drops SNAYVR;UA Adds LGA-Florida,SAL-IAD/LAX,DENCYS,IADPQI,IAHTLH post
OAG Changes 8/11/2020:RELATIVE QUIET;9K Cuts Routes;DL AM Swaps,Drops AUS-CVG;BA/WN/NK Cuts;UA New Routes post
OAG Changes 8/4/2020:SEPTEMBER SLIDE;AA Drops LAX-YVR;AM Drops AUS;AS Adds SAN-SBA; post
OAG Changes 7/28/2020:SLOW BLEED;AA Cuts LAX-EUG/FAT/MFR/RDM/SAN/SDF,LGA-TYS,ORD-SCE;DL Drops HAV/TGU/BOS Shrinks Trend for drawdown by DL/AA/WN and UA continues post
OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK has relativity small changes for UA (and AA), much larger changes for DL , NK and B6 post
OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION Some backsliding on previous Aug increases post
OAG Changes 7/5/2020: Significant number of September changes, in addition to previously announced August changes post
OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES (minimal changes)
OAG Changes 6/21/2020:August Under Fire;...UA Out of SMX (Some August updates)
OAG Changes for 6/14/2020:THE CALM BEFORE? (very few UA changes)
OAG Changes 6/7/2020 July 2020 (mostly North American for UA)
OAG Changes 5/31/2020 (mostly international for UA)

Search | Simple Flying

30 Aug 2020
Change Fees "Are Gone For Good"(Worldwide ex-USA,non-BE),waiver til March2021 for all

Change Fees Are Gone For Good
Originally Posted by UA Insider View Post
The only thing constant is change and at United Airlines, some of the fees associated with changes related to flying are gone for good. The carrier announced today that it is permanently getting rid of change fees on all standard Economy and Premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S., effective immediately. And starting on January 1, 2021, any United customer can fly standby for free, regardless of fare type, on a flight departing the day of their travel, a first among U.S. carriers, while MileagePlus Premier members can confirm a seat on a different flight on the same day with the same departure and arrival cities as their original ticket if a seat in the same ticket fare class is available.

United is also extending its waiver for new tickets issued through December 31, 2020, to permit unlimited changes with no fee. This policy applies to all ticket types issued after March 3, 2020 and is valid for domestic and international travel.

The new change fee policy applies to all standard Economy and Premium cabin tickets for travel within the U.S. 50 states, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands and customers will not be limited in the number of times they adjust their flights.

Additionally, United is giving customers more flexibility to change their flights on the day of their travel so they can head home if a meeting ends earlier or enjoy a few more hours on vacation. With the ability to list for same-day standby for free, customers will now have an option to take a different flight with the same origin and destination airports as their original itinerary if space is available at departure. This enhanced option will be available to all customers for travel within the U.S. and to and from international destinations beginning on January 1, 2021. Customers who want to switch flights will be able to add themselves to the standby list through Uniteds award-winning mobile app, on united.com or at the airport no later than 30 minutes prior to departure for domestic flights and one hour before departure on international flights.

The carrier is also improving the travel experience for its MileagePlus members including waiving all redeposit fees on award travel for flights changed or cancelled more than 30 days before departure and allowing all MileagePlus Premier members to confirm a different flight on the day of their travel. As a way to thank MileagePlus Premier members for their loyalty, beginning January 1, 2021, all Premier members will be able to confirm a seat for free on a different flight with the same departure and arrival cities as their original ticket. This expanded option will allow MileagePlus Silver members and above to confirm a new seat in the same ticket fare class if space is available. Earlier this year, United announced that it will extend status for MileagePlus Premier and United Global Services members through January 2022. United also reduced thresholds for Premier qualification by 50 percent for each status level, to make reaching an even higher status tier easier.

For more information on Uniteds new flexible travel policies, visit https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...hange-fee.html.




Change is here. Change fees are gone.Were permanently getting rid of change fees for most Economy and premium cabin tickets for travel within the United States. This includes Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Learn more

For all other destinations, change fees are waived through December 31, 2020. See terms and conditions
Were extending electronic certificatesTo give you more flexibility when you travel, electronic certificates are now valid for 24 months from the date they were issued. This includes all currently valid electronic certificates and all new ones issued on or after April 1, 2020.

This policy change will automatically appear, but it may not be reflected everywhere right away. Wed appreciate your patience as we work to make that happen.
Award flight redeposit fees waived

Were waiving redeposit fees for award flights issued on or before December 31, 2020, that are canceled at least 30 days before the departure date. You can also change your award flight with no fee. Learn more about changing or canceling your award flight.
International travel advisories and waivers

For more information about international travel: CARES service exemptions for United
United Exemption 042520 FINAL ISSUED.pdf
United Airlines 2nd Exemption_051220_FINAL ISSUED.pdf
latest (tentative) -2020-5-5 Order to Show Cause

Other Resources and Statistics
Print Wikipost

Old May 1, 20, 3:40 pm
  #2641  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 8,715
Originally Posted by fatlasercat View Post
Do we know what is UA's process of loading the domestic schedule reductions? I need to book an SFO-DEN trip mid June, but schedule matters. Currently they are selling 10+ flights daily starting 6/4, but only 3 daily flights up until 6/3. Is there a way to predict when they'll finalize the mid-June schedule? Also, if I book one of the 3 flights that are on the pre-6/3 schedule, can I be confident that they keep those 3?
The first major update for May (down 90%) came over the weekend of April 18, which was good through about May 20, and the weekend of 4/25 pushed that out to ~June 3. This weekend, I would expect to see the May schedule extended through mid/late June. UA seems to be filing schedules somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-45 days out, as of now.
EWR764 is offline  
Old May 1, 20, 6:34 pm
  #2642  
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: YVR
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 879
Looks like SFO- HKG is now cancelled through July 5
kevflyer is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 12:53 am
  #2643  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AS AA
Posts: 179
Originally Posted by kevflyer View Post
Looks like SFO- HKG is now cancelled through July 5
Interesting that SFO-Asia flights are all removed thru 7/5 except NRT and mainland China (CTU, PEK, PVG). PEK had been 777, but now it shows 789. Does that mean these flights are likely to resume on 6/4?
alfrie is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 5:23 am
  #2644  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 5,566
China and Italy waivers are gone

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l/notices.html

The travel waiver page does not contain China and Italy parts. Both waivers allow even-exchange for future travels ending June 30. It is very likely that United wont start flying in June to both China (SFO-PVG/PEK/CTU on June schedule, though) and Italy. Will United update these waivers soon?
Kmxu is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 7:11 am
  #2645  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SJC
Programs: Southwest, Alaska, United, American Airlines
Posts: 958
Originally Posted by Kmxu View Post
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l/notices.html

The travel waiver page does not contain China and Italy parts. Both waivers allow even-exchange for future travels ending June 30. It is very likely that United wont start flying in June to both China (SFO-PVG/PEK/CTU on June schedule, though) and Italy. Will United update these waivers soon?
Probably not.
nerdbirdsjc is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 8:23 am
  #2646  
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 138
Originally Posted by fatlasercat View Post
Do we know what is UA's process of loading the domestic schedule reductions? I need to book an SFO-DEN trip mid June, but schedule matters. Currently they are selling 10+ flights daily starting 6/4, but only 3 daily flights up until 6/3. Is there a way to predict when they'll finalize the mid-June schedule? Also, if I book one of the 3 flights that are on the pre-6/3 schedule, can I be confident that they keep those 3?
FYI: my June 5 flight has now been cut (it was there yesterday), but the mid-June flights are all still there (full schedules).
wanderlust99 is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 8:27 am
  #2647  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 8,715
UA changes through June have been published and summarized by Routesonline here. A few adds, including 3x weekly EWR-NRT/CDG, SFO-FRA.

Notably, 20 additional routes won't fly this summer, and the following stations will not reopen until October 23: ATH/FCO/GVA/MXP/MEL. Not surprising, again, given the COVID-19 impact and collapse of the cruise industry. AKL (resumes 07SEP)/MEL are primarily winter-seasonal, and so the only route to AU/NZ through most of the summer will be SFO-SYD. EWR/SFO-PVG and SFO-PEK/CTU are in the schedule to resume in June, as well, but that is pending review of "feasibility." In a few cases, the flights appear to be resumed passenger service on current all-cargo routes.

July 6 looks like the end date of the new schedule, which means a lot of flights will appear to resume, but it means United is essentially deferring a decision on those flights, rather than confirming they will operate effective July. This is similar to the arbitrary May 20 and June 3 dates in recent schedules... I don't think it's necessarily an indication United plans to resume international service en masse that day.

June domestic schedules do not appear to be finalized, so I will withhold judgment, but a few more notes on the international fleet allocation:
- No 757/767, 777-200ER or 787-8 flying in the June 4 - July 6 period
- EWR-PVG is the only 77W route planned, if it actually operates
- All other longhaul routes are 787-9/10

Based on that, I would expect UA to keep the 757/767 fleets parked until no sooner than July, and perhaps try to hold out even longer.
EWR764 is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 12:02 pm
  #2648  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AS AA
Posts: 179
Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
UA changes through June have been published and summarized by Routesonline here. A few adds, including 3x weekly EWR-NRT/CDG, SFO-FRA.

Notably, 20 additional routes won't fly this summer, and the following stations will not reopen until October 23: ATH/FCO/GVA/MXP/MEL. Not surprising, again, given the COVID-19 impact and collapse of the cruise industry. AKL (resumes 07SEP)/MEL are primarily winter-seasonal, and so the only route to AU/NZ through most of the summer will be SFO-SYD. EWR/SFO-PVG and SFO-PEK/CTU are in the schedule to resume in June, as well, but that is pending review of "feasibility." In a few cases, the flights appear to be resumed passenger service on current all-cargo routes.

July 6 looks like the end date of the new schedule, which means a lot of flights will appear to resume, but it means United is essentially deferring a decision on those flights, rather than confirming they will operate effective July. This is similar to the arbitrary May 20 and June 3 dates in recent schedules... I don't think it's necessarily an indication United plans to resume international service en masse that day.

June domestic schedules do not appear to be finalized, so I will withhold judgment, but a few more notes on the international fleet allocation:
- No 757/767, 777-200ER or 787-8 flying in the June 4 - July 6 period
- EWR-PVG is the only 77W route planned, if it actually operates
- All other longhaul routes are 787-9/10

Based on that, I would expect UA to keep the 757/767 fleets parked until no sooner than July, and perhaps try to hold out even longer.
I am wondering where you get the info that the China flights are pending review of "feasibility"? I understand the one flight per week per airline restriction is still in place. Is that what you are referring to?

It looks like the first few days after 6/4 are fully booked. That may be due to rebooking consolidation from previously cancelled flights. SFO-CTU still shows 787-8 in June.
alfrie is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 2:06 pm
  #2649  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,071
Originally Posted by Kmxu View Post
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l/notices.html

The travel waiver page does not contain China and Italy parts. Both waivers allow even-exchange for future travels ending June 30. It is very likely that United wont start flying in June to both China (SFO-PVG/PEK/CTU on June schedule, though) and Italy. Will United update these waivers soon?
In the case of Italy it looks like all service to Italy has been suspended til fall.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...15gmt-02may20/
(link courtesy of EWR 764)

Some indications how UA gauges market potential, by cancelling some / still keeping other routes alive.
For the time being a couple of interesting signs re Zurich service: SFO-ZRH still alive/6 July. Even new launch of ORD-ZRH still on the books/24 Oct.
We'll see what happens .......
cesco.g is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 2:14 pm
  #2650  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 16,832
Originally Posted by RNE View Post
If UA isn't flying any aircraft between your wife's origination and destination airports at any time on the day of travel, then, you're correct, her flight was cancelled.
This isn't true. It's also irrelevant, so I don't understand why it's such a point of contention.

Originally Posted by RNE View Post
Even though you cancelled the booking, you may still be able to get UA to refund the money it owes you by filing a DOT complaint and explaining that you did request a refund, that UA denied it, and that it was UA's denial that prompted you to cancel the booking.
This, on the other hand, is true, with emphasis on "may." The DOT does not define what constitutes a significant delay. Prior to COVID, UA used a 2-hour threshold for determining whether or not a refund was allowable for a schedule change.

If you decide to file a complaint, explain why the revised schedule was unacceptable, and mention the two-hour policy that was in place when you booked the ticket. Do not mention COVID -- and I wouldn't recommend mentioning the word "cancellation," because it just gives UA something to push back against.

Good luck!
jsloan is online now  
Old May 2, 20, 10:30 pm
  #2651  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: St. Louis, MO, USA
Programs: AA Gold, Mariott Gold Elite, UA Silver, Lowly kettle across DL, Hyatt, ATK, IHG.
Posts: 706
Originally Posted by gdc1 View Post
Thanks, WineCountryUA! I called the Premier Priority desk. I said Id had a schedule change and would like to see if I could get a refund. On pulling the itinerary, the agent immediately said, I see they were not able to get replacements for two of your flights, so you qualify. It took less than 10 minutes, including time to check with Lufthansa (for that missing FRA-VCE leg).

Well see whether the refund actually materializes within the next 7 to 25 business days. But for now Im a lot less frustrated with United. Heres hoping they soon have flights for which I can return the money.
They've rerouted our VCE trip to STL-ORD-MUC-VCE via LH. Can we get from UX to LH in 45 minutes without running through ORD? Also don't know if 1 hour is adequate in MUC. Okay with a voucher, but what form will it take? If I can't use it on partners, it's worthless to me, because I won't be able to use it for this trip.
iplaybass is offline  
Old May 2, 20, 11:07 pm
  #2652  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 16,832
Originally Posted by iplaybass View Post
Can we get from UX to LH in 45 minutes without running through ORD?
Assuming you're asking if you can make a 45 minute connection, the answer is, "you can," but you're counting on everything going right. It's not one that I would book myself.

Originally Posted by iplaybass View Post
Also don't know if 1 hour is adequate in MUC.
You have to go through immigration (but not customs) at MUC. If the line is short, you have a chance, but this is another connection I'd try to avoid.

Booking both of these connections on the same trip, in normal times, would be asking for trouble. With the possibility of lighter loads in the foreseeable future, though, who knows?

Originally Posted by iplaybass View Post
Okay with a voucher, but what form will it take? If I can't use it on partners, it's worthless to me, because I won't be able to use it for this trip.
Select "Future Flight Credit." If they ask if you want an "Electronic Travel Credit," tell them "no," because you may need to take a codeshare or partner flight.
jsloan is online now  
Old May 3, 20, 1:22 pm
  #2653  
formerly wunderpit
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ONT-SNA-LAX
Programs: UA1K-HHDiamond
Posts: 1,191
Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
UA changes through June have been published and summarized by Routesonline here.
Yup, on May 1 UA punted on my LAX > HND in July flight. Makes that decision easy. Next up...SFO>TPE in mid-July. I imagine that will be toast soon...even though:

San Francisco – Taipei Taoyuan eff 06JUL20 Service resumption, 1 daily 777-300ER

But...then there's the part about Taiwan even allowing us dirty Americans in...

Last edited by Weyland Yutani Corp; May 3, 20 at 1:23 pm Reason: added more about immigration
Weyland Yutani Corp is offline  
Old May 3, 20, 2:02 pm
  #2654  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 16,832
Originally Posted by wunderpit View Post
Yup, on May 1 UA punted on my LAX > HND in July flight. Makes that decision easy. Next up...SFO>TPE in mid-July. I imagine that will be toast soon...even though:

San Francisco Taipei Taoyuan eff 06JUL20 Service resumption, 1 daily 777-300ER

But...then there's the part about Taiwan even allowing us dirty Americans in...
The July 6 date doesn't mean anything at this point. It's just that United has only updated its schedule through July 5. I suspect they'll make decisions on July in 3-4 weeks.
jsloan is online now  
Old May 3, 20, 7:53 pm
  #2655  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 8,715
Originally Posted by alfrie View Post
I am wondering where you get the info that the China flights are pending review of "feasibility"? I understand the one flight per week per airline restriction is still in place. Is that what you are referring to?

It looks like the first few days after 6/4 are fully booked. That may be due to rebooking consolidation from previously cancelled flights. SFO-CTU still shows 787-8 in June.
United's words, not mine. I assume "feasibility" = demand.
EWR764 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread