UA-partner Business Awards 60K multiple destinations,BKK,KUL,HKG,CGK,MNL, .. changes?
#646
Join Date: May 2017
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Anyone know if it’s possible to cancel an excursionist perk segment on these itineraries without a reprice? I booked AKL-CHC as EP and it’s now much more convenient for me to fly AKL-ZQN. There’s no X space on AKL-ZQN, so no use in even trying to change, but the flight is only $100, so I’m happy to just buy a separate ticket if I can cancel the EP.
#647
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SAN
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What to do?
Ugh. So I have to make a choice in short order and am not sure what to do... Will keep this brief.
Am flying MCT-IST-USA. TK cancelled their MCT-IST flight on the day I need. I either fly the day before (which gums up my trip) or the day after (which is really bad for me). Either way, they say there is no more TATL TK availability in J, so I'd have to find some 4-connection MS/ET solution back home via CAI/ADD,,,which I really don't want to do.
The one solution I'm able to find is a MCT-DUB-IST FlyDubai (FZ) option that would get me to IST 5 hours before my original IST-USA flight...so I would ask UA to cut out the MCT-IST leg and just make it in effect an open-jaw. This has the benefit of letting me keep the TK segments and getting me back on time (and allows me to try a new airline!). The downside, of course, is that if I have problems with FZ, UA/TK will have little sympathy if I no-show in IST.
What would you do? Is the FZ option too risky?
Am flying MCT-IST-USA. TK cancelled their MCT-IST flight on the day I need. I either fly the day before (which gums up my trip) or the day after (which is really bad for me). Either way, they say there is no more TATL TK availability in J, so I'd have to find some 4-connection MS/ET solution back home via CAI/ADD,,,which I really don't want to do.
The one solution I'm able to find is a MCT-DUB-IST FlyDubai (FZ) option that would get me to IST 5 hours before my original IST-USA flight...so I would ask UA to cut out the MCT-IST leg and just make it in effect an open-jaw. This has the benefit of letting me keep the TK segments and getting me back on time (and allows me to try a new airline!). The downside, of course, is that if I have problems with FZ, UA/TK will have little sympathy if I no-show in IST.
What would you do? Is the FZ option too risky?
#648
Join Date: May 2012
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Ugh. So I have to make a choice in short order and am not sure what to do... Will keep this brief.
Am flying MCT-IST-USA. TK cancelled their MCT-IST flight on the day I need. I either fly the day before (which gums up my trip) or the day after (which is really bad for me). Either way, they say there is no more TATL TK availability in J, so I'd have to find some 4-connection MS/ET solution back home via CAI/ADD,,,which I really don't want to do.
The one solution I'm able to find is a MCT-DUB-IST FlyDubai (FZ) option that would get me to IST 5 hours before my original IST-USA flight...so I would ask UA to cut out the MCT-IST leg and just make it in effect an open-jaw. This has the benefit of letting me keep the TK segments and getting me back on time (and allows me to try a new airline!). The downside, of course, is that if I have problems with FZ, UA/TK will have little sympathy if I no-show in IST.
What would you do? Is the FZ option too risky?
Am flying MCT-IST-USA. TK cancelled their MCT-IST flight on the day I need. I either fly the day before (which gums up my trip) or the day after (which is really bad for me). Either way, they say there is no more TATL TK availability in J, so I'd have to find some 4-connection MS/ET solution back home via CAI/ADD,,,which I really don't want to do.
The one solution I'm able to find is a MCT-DUB-IST FlyDubai (FZ) option that would get me to IST 5 hours before my original IST-USA flight...so I would ask UA to cut out the MCT-IST leg and just make it in effect an open-jaw. This has the benefit of letting me keep the TK segments and getting me back on time (and allows me to try a new airline!). The downside, of course, is that if I have problems with FZ, UA/TK will have little sympathy if I no-show in IST.
What would you do? Is the FZ option too risky?
The second choice is to change your originating city from MCT to DXB, where AC/LH/LX may fly to. If you can find I space on these partner flights from DXB to their respective hubs, you can get back to USA with the rest of flights in JN class.
I cannot comment on your proposed option on FZ.
Good luck.
#649
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SAN
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The safest solution is to fly MCT-IST a day earlier. You take a one-day vacation in Istanbul, instead.
The second choice is to change your originating city from MCT to DXB, where AC/LH/LX may fly to. If you can find I space on these partner flights from DXB to their respective hubs, you can get back to USA with the rest of flights in JN class.
I cannot comment on your proposed option on FZ.
Good luck.
The second choice is to change your originating city from MCT to DXB, where AC/LH/LX may fly to. If you can find I space on these partner flights from DXB to their respective hubs, you can get back to USA with the rest of flights in JN class.
I cannot comment on your proposed option on FZ.
Good luck.
However, it will be a tough stopover...arriving 5:30am on the 18th, leaving 6:35am the following day. I'll have to think about this...
#650
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: MA
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Seeking an advice , please !
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
Last edited by s777bg; Oct 1, 2022 at 1:03 am
#651
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,882
Seeking an advice , please !
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
Option 1a via IAD, SFO and AKL has longer connection times at IAD and SFO (~2 h), with IAD-SFO on B777-300. However, the layover at AKL (to WLG/CHC/ZQN) is long.
Just call and let the agent find options. Changing destination may work.
Good luck!
#652
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Seeking an advice , please !
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
BOS-IAH-SYD-WLG , morning SYD-WLG got canceled and automatically rebooked on the evening one with 10h55min layover instead of 2h.
Trying to figure out my options :
1. reroute : BOS-SFO-AKL-WLG , unfortunately no business availability at all for three seats on any of the 3 daily flights BOS-SFO , Jan 8th (Sunday) , only one seat available per flight
1.1. reroute BOS-EWR/DEN/IAD-SFO-AKL-WLG , it seems risky with two 1h-2h domestic connections , being Jan and likely afternoon delays in case of winter weather .
2. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN , last segment on VA who are new United partners , two hours layover in SYD
3. reroute BOS-IAH-SYD-ZQN/CHC , last segment on ANZ , both options with two hours layover , though only CHC is less than 250 miles from original destination
Are options 2 & 3 viable at all ?
p.s. can’t depart a day later and don’t really want to leave a day early
#653
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,267
There doesn't need to be award availability at the same fare level on UA flights ("high"/"low" buckets), but there still has to be business seats available on the flight. Since JN is a last seat availability bucket it should match the business cabin availability on the whole.
#654
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There doesn't need to be award availability at the same fare level on UA flights ("high"/"low" buckets), but there still has to be business seats available on the flight. Since JN is a last seat availability bucket it should match the business cabin availability on the whole.
#656
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: MA
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I was on the phone for 53min with the most sympathetic agent ever , unfortunately we didn’t get anywhere..
I could change the destination to CHC that is within 250 miles of WLG , but zero availability from Sydney and very scarce availability from AKL (1 or 2 seats ) .
There is enough availability from AKL , but only for flights early in the morning before the SFO flight arrival or in the evening that would get us at about the same time to WLG or CHC in comparison with the Sydney departure .
Couple of things to note, because we are travelling with a minor (4 years old ) :
1. The agent said to call back on Nov 3rd when new award availability might open , in the meantime she is leaving a note in the system …
2. Even if it doesn’t open , eventually United could push Air NZ to open some for us due to 11 hours layover with a minor , but it’s a whole process and they would do that when gets rclose to departure …
Also , I was told by the agent if we end up keeping the long layover in Sydney , we are due for a compensation, either miles or electronic certificate.
I could change the destination to CHC that is within 250 miles of WLG , but zero availability from Sydney and very scarce availability from AKL (1 or 2 seats ) .
There is enough availability from AKL , but only for flights early in the morning before the SFO flight arrival or in the evening that would get us at about the same time to WLG or CHC in comparison with the Sydney departure .
Couple of things to note, because we are travelling with a minor (4 years old ) :
1. The agent said to call back on Nov 3rd when new award availability might open , in the meantime she is leaving a note in the system …
2. Even if it doesn’t open , eventually United could push Air NZ to open some for us due to 11 hours layover with a minor , but it’s a whole process and they would do that when gets rclose to departure …
Also , I was told by the agent if we end up keeping the long layover in Sydney , we are due for a compensation, either miles or electronic certificate.
#657
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1. The agent said to call back on Nov 3rd when new award availability might open , in the meantime she is leaving a note in the system …
2. Even if it doesn’t open , eventually United could push Air NZ to open some for us due to 11 hours layover with a minor , but it’s a whole process and they would do that when gets rclose to departure …
2. Even if it doesn’t open , eventually United could push Air NZ to open some for us due to 11 hours layover with a minor , but it’s a whole process and they would do that when gets rclose to departure …
Sorry to be so negative but the agent was talking nonsense
Space may or may not open, but there is no magic date and success getting partner to open space is an unicorn event.
The traveling with a 4-yr old may get you sympathy but there is no policy / practice / .... that with a 4-yr old will make any difference.
#658
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: MA
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I also never heard before for similar practices.
To add a bit more - I was on hold twice while she was consulting a supervisor and then explaining my next steps.
To me (us) won’t be a drama the long layover ( day room , walk , etc ) , the real reason for inquiring any convenient options is that we will be in Sydney for a week around Thanksgiving and the long layover really feels like waste of time …
To add a bit more - I was on hold twice while she was consulting a supervisor and then explaining my next steps.
To me (us) won’t be a drama the long layover ( day room , walk , etc ) , the real reason for inquiring any convenient options is that we will be in Sydney for a week around Thanksgiving and the long layover really feels like waste of time …
#659
Join Date: Aug 2016
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My flight WLG-SYD-SFO had a schedule change arriving 80m later. I was able to get it re-ticketed to WLG-AKL-SFO. Not bad avoiding the ~4hr trans-Tasman flight in X. All done through United web chat, long wait time for ticketing though, like a couple of hours.
#660
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Yes, some of us here have used schedule changes to switch to the AKL-SFO flight, reducing time in coach on the tasman flights. Enjoy!