Questions on booking Polaris Business class
#16
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SFO
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To get a better feel for what a Polaris cabin looks like head over to https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...nes-fleet.html and pick the plane type that you expect (it can change!) to be on. For one quick sample it seems that UA 923 departing 2 June will be on a 787-9 aka 789. Make your way to the 3D view of the Polaris cabin, and play with the controls to spin zoom, and reposition to a different fixed view point. As stated above, you'll note that every other row on a 787 has a pair of seats in the middle of the 1-2-1 layout that have the desk area on the aisle and thus the seats are closer than the others. The partition in between the two can be lowered if you are traveling with someone you know and wish to chat with.
See also https://seatguru.com/airlines/United...ng_787-9_B.php
NB! Depending on when you fly and how quickly the remaining planes are modified to true Polaris, with a 789 there is a chance that you'll get an older model seat. Currently 5 of 38 aircraft are flying with older style seats, 3 are out of service being modified with Polaris seats, and 30 are flying with Polaris. https://sites.google.com/site/united...s-mod-schedule
See also https://seatguru.com/airlines/United...ng_787-9_B.php
NB! Depending on when you fly and how quickly the remaining planes are modified to true Polaris, with a 789 there is a chance that you'll get an older model seat. Currently 5 of 38 aircraft are flying with older style seats, 3 are out of service being modified with Polaris seats, and 30 are flying with Polaris. https://sites.google.com/site/united...s-mod-schedule
#17
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London & Sonoma CA
Programs: UA 1K, MM *G for life, BAEC Gold
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You may find significantly cheaper fares flying to different European gateways and then making your own way to LHR or EDI. DUB springs to mind but take your pick from a wide range. If EDI is your final destination, then you will be changing planes anyway so non-stop is not an option. A night in Paris or Amsterdam could be a very pleasant extra to a vacation.
The other trick would be to look at tickets on UA's partners across the Atlantic - Air Canada, Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airways, SAS or TAP. The latter especially has some amazingly reasonable fares. If you buy them on UA's ticket, you'll earn less towards Gold obviously because the ticket is cheaper, but still a good amount. If you buy them through their own sites, then you may well earn more - it's complicated but it's possible to figure it out from UA's site on Partner Airlines. TAP in particular is an interesting one as it offers extraordinarily low fares and free stopovers in Lisbon. Although the service isn't great, the seat is still lie flat and you should get a good sleep.
The other trick would be to look at tickets on UA's partners across the Atlantic - Air Canada, Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airways, SAS or TAP. The latter especially has some amazingly reasonable fares. If you buy them on UA's ticket, you'll earn less towards Gold obviously because the ticket is cheaper, but still a good amount. If you buy them through their own sites, then you may well earn more - it's complicated but it's possible to figure it out from UA's site on Partner Airlines. TAP in particular is an interesting one as it offers extraordinarily low fares and free stopovers in Lisbon. Although the service isn't great, the seat is still lie flat and you should get a good sleep.
#18
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Honestly, I think that UA is the most expensive airline to chase status on right now. The 750 / 500 PQP limit on partner premium economy segments kills (or at least cripples) a good way to earn cheap PQP. And even if you manage to earn it this year, are you going to be able to keep it next year when the requirements go up?
#19
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Last edited by WineCountryUA; Apr 7, 2022 at 10:24 am Reason: quote correction updated
#20
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Depends on the plane. On the Polaris-equipped planes with two lie-flats in the middle, the even-numbered pair are best for couples. There's a panel that slides up and down to either provide privacy or to allow conversation.
Gold is best for E+ seat selection at booking, United Club access on int'l trips, and early boarding group privileges. Don't go for Gold if you're expecting a bunch of free upgrades.
Gold is best for E+ seat selection at booking, United Club access on int'l trips, and early boarding group privileges. Don't go for Gold if you're expecting a bunch of free upgrades.
#22
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#23
Join Date: Jul 2013
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You beat me to it. Both Odd and Even pairs have dividers that can be lowered. However, the divider between the even seats is very short and only allows a porthole view of your companion.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA Plat, UA 1K>Plat>moving to Silver
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I think you can do a lot better than 10-11K. I've been looking at a fair amount of RT TATL flights from June to mid September, and I am usually able to find something (including connections through LHR) in the 4K range. Though even at that, I am booking saver awards and upgrades for miles at booking on various airlines (AF, KLM, BA) instead, though partly just because I had so many miles from cancelled flights from the beginning of COVID.
#25
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 4,771
If you think the amenities will be "First Class' you should head over to the 2022 Polaris meals thread, the soft product is ghastly and likely the worst one among all the majors. Get status somewhere else, lots of options to Europe and you'd need to connect no matter who you fly. $5K for a ticket on UA....
#26
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#27
Join Date: Oct 2009
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If you think the amenities will be "First Class' you should head over to the 2022 Polaris meals thread, the soft product is ghastly and likely the worst one among all the majors. Get status somewhere else, lots of options to Europe and you'd need to connect no matter who you fly. $5K for a ticket on UA....
Last edited by zombietooth; Apr 7, 2022 at 4:46 pm
#28
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Can you recommend a different airline? (Although I'm sure that's a different can of worms.)
I only discuss UA because that's who I've historically travelled with but if another airline has a much better international experience, and reasonable ability to get some sort of useful status then I'll have a look.
This is the first year the dear wife and I have been unencumbered by either employers or cats.
We now have the ability to say, what the heck, lets up and go whenever/wherever we feel like.
Not silly rich or anything but I'll be looking for deals. We're very partial to the UK/Europe but will get around to Asia sooner or later.
We're not getting any younger.
I only discuss UA because that's who I've historically travelled with but if another airline has a much better international experience, and reasonable ability to get some sort of useful status then I'll have a look.
This is the first year the dear wife and I have been unencumbered by either employers or cats.
We now have the ability to say, what the heck, lets up and go whenever/wherever we feel like.
Not silly rich or anything but I'll be looking for deals. We're very partial to the UK/Europe but will get around to Asia sooner or later.
We're not getting any younger.
#29
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
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What airport are you flying out of.
If you are going to be traveling to Asia at some point - UA had the strongest Asia network and anticipate it will again when restrictions are lifted.
Regardless - you can always grab your Gold status with UA, then try the other Star Alliance airlines - and that alliance in my opinion is the strongest.
If you are going to be traveling to Asia at some point - UA had the strongest Asia network and anticipate it will again when restrictions are lifted.
Regardless - you can always grab your Gold status with UA, then try the other Star Alliance airlines - and that alliance in my opinion is the strongest.
#30
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Can you recommend a different airline? (Although I'm sure that's a different can of worms.)
I only discuss UA because that's who I've historically travelled with but if another airline has a much better international experience, and reasonable ability to get some sort of useful status then I'll have a look.
This is the first year the dear wife and I have been unencumbered by either employers or cats.
We now have the ability to say, what the heck, lets up and go whenever/wherever we feel like.
Not silly rich or anything but I'll be looking for deals. We're very partial to the UK/Europe but will get around to Asia sooner or later.
We're not getting any younger.
I only discuss UA because that's who I've historically travelled with but if another airline has a much better international experience, and reasonable ability to get some sort of useful status then I'll have a look.
This is the first year the dear wife and I have been unencumbered by either employers or cats.
We now have the ability to say, what the heck, lets up and go whenever/wherever we feel like.
Not silly rich or anything but I'll be looking for deals. We're very partial to the UK/Europe but will get around to Asia sooner or later.
We're not getting any younger.
Last edited by zombietooth; Apr 7, 2022 at 6:58 pm