“UA has decided to temporarily suspend transiting Russian airspace"SFO-DEL/BOM impact
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I have a dilemma and would love if anyone has advice. My parents went to India last month and were scheduled to fly a return PNQ-DEL-SFO in biz on May 10, but the UA105 DEL-SFO was cancelled. I'm not too familiar how to reroute/rebook in this type of situation, so am wondering where to start and what the best options might be?
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+1. Keep checking. Earlier in April at least business class seats on alternative UA flights kept going in and out of availability. You can change multiple times - ask them to notate the PNR if at first you have to change to non-ideal flights.
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I have a dilemma and would love if anyone has advice. My parents went to India last month and were scheduled to fly a return PNQ-DEL-SFO in biz on May 10, but the UA105 DEL-SFO was cancelled. I'm not too familiar how to reroute/rebook in this type of situation, so am wondering where to start and what the best options might be?
See if UA will connect them onto SingaporeAir SQ403 DEL-SIN connecting to UA2 nonstop SIN to SFO
Worst case offer to fly DEL-SIN in Coach
SIN is much more pleasant a connection than FRA
Last edited by uastarflyer; Apr 21, 2022 at 7:49 pm
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Or try PNQ-DEL-EWR/ORD-SFO if there is space on the DEL-EWR/ORD flights. That's all UA so might be easier to get than DEL-SIN. Same number of stops.
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I do know UA makes SQ(India-SIN) —>UA SIN-SFO available via award seats (in Y) so that was where I was coming from
Last edited by uastarflyer; Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 pm
#201
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Many thanks for the helpful replies. I also booked this flight through Chase for the Ultimate Rewards 5x points, so can I still call United to rebook? My understanding is that calling the airline directly is usually preferable?
Does anyone know how exactly the airlines work it out between each other when they have to rebook on each other's flights? I was wondering if I can ask for a rebooking to Air India first class instead of biz for DEL-SFO, which is actually a true lie-flat seat and more analogous to United Polaris that I originally booked for them. (Especially with dad recovering from back injury the ergonomics seem important on such a long flight). So I'm not sure if United will balk at that if it actually costs them more based on the rebooking agreement they have with Air India, or if it doesn't actually directly cost them anything.
Right, not award travel. Would that change the options?
What would I ask them to notate? Just that I may want to change again since it was non-ideal?
Yes that's right, PNQ-DEL on Vistara and it was booked as United ticket. Air India has a direct SFO-DEL, is that a better or worse option? It is direct but not sure about Air India biz.
Maybe flying BOM-SIN-SFO on Singapore biz would be a good option? Better seat, better connection?
Does anyone know how exactly the airlines work it out between each other when they have to rebook on each other's flights? I was wondering if I can ask for a rebooking to Air India first class instead of biz for DEL-SFO, which is actually a true lie-flat seat and more analogous to United Polaris that I originally booked for them. (Especially with dad recovering from back injury the ergonomics seem important on such a long flight). So I'm not sure if United will balk at that if it actually costs them more based on the rebooking agreement they have with Air India, or if it doesn't actually directly cost them anything.
Maybe flying BOM-SIN-SFO on Singapore biz would be a good option? Better seat, better connection?
Last edited by Luxurious; Apr 22, 2022 at 12:21 pm
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See the ticket number, if it starts with 016 you can try United
However, because you booked via Chase (which uses Expedia IIRC as its engine) you may be told you have to work this through Chase
You won’t get to change to Air India First. You might be able to switch to AI Business DEL-SFO though. That’s obviously the most efficient option. AI Business class isn’t as nice as others but is that crucial?
However, because you booked via Chase (which uses Expedia IIRC as its engine) you may be told you have to work this through Chase
You won’t get to change to Air India First. You might be able to switch to AI Business DEL-SFO though. That’s obviously the most efficient option. AI Business class isn’t as nice as others but is that crucial?
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See the ticket number, if it starts with 016 you can try United
However, because you booked via Chase (which uses Expedia IIRC as its engine) you may be told you have to work this through Chase
You won’t get to change to Air India First. You might be able to switch to AI Business DEL-SFO though. That’s obviously the most efficient option. AI Business class isn’t as nice as others but is that crucial?
However, because you booked via Chase (which uses Expedia IIRC as its engine) you may be told you have to work this through Chase
You won’t get to change to Air India First. You might be able to switch to AI Business DEL-SFO though. That’s obviously the most efficient option. AI Business class isn’t as nice as others but is that crucial?
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Thanks, the ticket # does start with 016...does that signify something in particular?
Yes it seems like doing the AI Business DEL-SFO is the most straight-forward rebooking. Though the original Polaris booking I think cost a bit more than the same itinerary in AI biz, so maybe that is not the best bang for the buck as I imagine there is no sort of refund for the hypothetical/historical fare difference.
So I think I will also see what the cash refund would be like marks88 suggested:
Unless I could ask them to just directly rebook on SQ?
So I think I will also see what the cash refund would be like marks88 suggested:
I would try to get a cash refund of the unused cancelled segment, and then purchase J on SQ directly thru SIN. I booked BOM-SIN-LAX in J for under US$2k oneway, more or less last minute. Was able to upgrade BOM-SIN to Suites with 35k Chase points too (transferred to SQ).
Last edited by Luxurious; Apr 23, 2022 at 11:23 am
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What are the first 3 digits (that's the issuing / booking airline)
How was this booked -- online site or an airline site?
This is important because you do not deal directly with the operating airlines but rather with the booking airline or travel agency for schedule changes.
Not being 016 / UA, will make this more difficult.
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Find a few same-cabin routing you'd prefer, and contact the travel agent you booked the original itinerary with to get reaccommodated on one of those. If they won't play ball (e.g. only offer much less desirable options), review your options to refund under your travel agent's policies.
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Yes, this is very important
What are the first 3 digits (that's the issuing / booking airline)
How was this booked -- online site or an airline site?
This is important because you do not deal directly with the operating airlines but rather with the booking airline or travel agency for schedule changes.
Not being 016 / UA, will make this more difficult.
What are the first 3 digits (that's the issuing / booking airline)
How was this booked -- online site or an airline site?
This is important because you do not deal directly with the operating airlines but rather with the booking airline or travel agency for schedule changes.
Not being 016 / UA, will make this more difficult.
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You need to talk to Chase/Expedia first (however generally useless but UA may ask) but UA may be willing to takeover the ticket. When you call UA, there is a special desk for India tickets
#209
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I have a dilemma and would love if anyone has advice. My parents went to India last month and were scheduled to fly a return PNQ-DEL-SFO in biz on May 10, but the UA105 DEL-SFO was cancelled. I'm not too familiar how to reroute/rebook in this type of situation, so am wondering where to start and what the best options might be?
The refund is also an option. But the original roundtrip ticket cost around $2900, and the refund they estimated was only going to be $1000? Does that make sense, as I assumed if half the ticket is getting refunded it would be around half the fare? Not much transparency in this area.
I'm thinking of just booking BOM-DOH-SFO in Qatar QSuites and ending the ordeal, unless anyone has any other suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far.
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Interesting/baffling update on this in case anyone is in a similar boat. United is only willing to do an "even exchange" for their own operated flights. And the routing with only United flights is DEL-ORD-IAH-SFO, 37+ hour trip, which for elderly parents is not practical. United said switching to the Air India DEL-SFO nonstop flight would be repriced and extra charge. So I think that is peculiar, because United was seemingly rebooking people on Lufthansa at no charge based on earlier posts in this thread. The front-line phone reps seemed to try their best, and I did say yes when the phone tree asked if this was about India travel, but is there is an escalated department I should try to ask for? (don't have United status so I didn't get automatically routed to an elite agent).
The refund is also an option. But the original roundtrip ticket cost around $2900, and the refund they estimated was only going to be $1000? Does that make sense, as I assumed if half the ticket is getting refunded it would be around half the fare? Not much transparency in this area.
I'm thinking of just booking BOM-DOH-SFO in Qatar QSuites and ending the ordeal, unless anyone has any other suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far.
The refund is also an option. But the original roundtrip ticket cost around $2900, and the refund they estimated was only going to be $1000? Does that make sense, as I assumed if half the ticket is getting refunded it would be around half the fare? Not much transparency in this area.
I'm thinking of just booking BOM-DOH-SFO in Qatar QSuites and ending the ordeal, unless anyone has any other suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far.