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United's Operations during Australia's Reopening

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FT thread-->United Announces SFO-Brisbane (BNE), Australia
"Year-round, nonstop service between Brisbane and San Francisco starts in October "
AU Govt--->Digital Passenger Declaration
AU Govt-->Inbound international travel
Pre Departure Testing
From 18 April 2022, changes to pre-departure testing for travelling to Australia will come into effect. Travellers are reminded that it is your responsibility to ensure you meet the requirements of the airline you are travelling with and any countries you transit through.
Pre departure testing not required from 18 April 2022

AU Govt--->COVID-19 and the border
AU Govt-->COVID-19 and the border- Travel restrictions and exemptions
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From 21 February 2022, all fully vaccinated visa holders can travel to Australia without a travel exemption. Unvaccinated visa holders will still need a valid travel exemption to enter Australia.
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Main AU CV19 thread-->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ocea...ol-thread.html
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Old Oct 27, 21, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by roknilandlord View Post
Does anyone have any insight on when United might actually release any saver fares at 40k per ticket for US to Australia?
I don't think we'll ever see that again.
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Old Oct 27, 21, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by roknilandlord View Post
.... Does anyone have any insight on when United might actually release any saver fares at 40k per ticket for US to Australia? Are saver fares available for similar long-haul routes on United (US to Africa or Asia), or are they also only available at 150k?
The concept of fixed saver / standard awards not longer exists, no published award chart -- UA, other airlines, hotels, ... are going to dynamically priced awards. Roughly tracking cash prices with reward miles / points having a more consistent value in terms of the cash value.
"Dynamic Award Pricing" by UA; questions, experiences, .... (No Award Chart Nov 2019)
This is not 100% but is the general trend in rewards bookings nowadays

So given the discussion in this thread about travel restrictions and high cash prices, one would expect high reward mileage reward ticket. PVG is seeing the same effect. Places with less restrictive travel, hence lower cash prices, will have lower reward mileage requirements. When travel / demand to Australia returns to "normal", the mileage reward requirements will likely drop -- the question is when that "normal" returns?
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Old Oct 27, 21, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman View Post
I don't think we'll ever see that again.
Umm.. have you actually checked recently (say, within the past few days)?
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Old Oct 27, 21, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by roknilandlord View Post
Australia recently re-opened its borders and I am hoping flight schedules and prices normalize soon.

United has plenty of award availability for flights from US to Australia - but all economy fares are 150k miles (one-way)! I cannot find any business availability, nor can I find any economy availability below 150k per ticket.

Does anyone have any insight on when United might actually release any saver fares at 40k per ticket for US to Australia? Are saver fares available for similar long-haul routes on United (US to Africa or Asia), or are they also only available at 150k?
When do you want to travel?

Australia has *not* recently re-opened its borders.
From 01 Nov AU will open to vaccinated AU citizens, AU permanent residents, eligible family and limited others.
I would expect the restrictions on others to apply for 2021 calendar year.

Main AU thread-->Australia’s response to Covid-19 [general border control thread]

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Old Oct 27, 21, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman View Post
I don't think we'll ever see that again.
I can get home for Christmas right now for 40K/80K one way (Econ/Biz).
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Old Oct 27, 21, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by seanp7 View Post
I can get home for Christmas right now for 40K/80K one way (Econ/Biz).
Christmas. Or any other day for the next ~330 days. Economy (40K most days, ~43K on a few) is available every day. Business (80K) is available 2-3 days a week. Economy has been this way for the past few days. Business appears to have only been added late yesterday or today.

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Old Oct 27, 21, 3:12 pm
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Gone, I can see zero Biz award saver for Dec or Jan
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Old Oct 27, 21, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by rosesplus View Post
Gone, I can see zero Biz award saver for Dec or Jan
It's still there... SFO-SYD on Dec 21, 80K. Use View Calendar. This thread is impacting things a little (unlike before), but it's there.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 9:11 am
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I was able to book SAN-SYD in Polaris for 50K miles on December 23. Needed to cancel as had to be back for NYE but the seats are there.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by Aussienarelle View Post
I was able to book SAN-SYD in Polaris for 50K miles on December 23.
Polaris? For 50K? Are you sure? I never seen <80K on flights to Australia, and I'm certainly not seeing anything at the moment - cheapest SAN-SYD is 200K on that day, but other days are 80K.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 11:07 am
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Polaris? For 50K? Are you sure? I never seen <80K on flights to Australia, and I'm certainly not seeing anything at the moment - cheapest SAN-SYD is 200K on that day, but other days are 80K.
Sorry, my bad. You are correct it was 80K. I also booked a domestic 50K in business for Thanksgiving - muddled the bookings. Kept the domestic and cancelled the Aussie trip.

It was 80K as just checked my MP account.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 9:18 pm
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Just to clarify…..Australians flying to the USA on United will need to be fully vaccinated and have a negative PCR test within 72 hours of departure ie. we will be flying with fully vaccinated, theoretically non infectious passengers to the USA.
When making domestic connections in the USA will we be flying with unvaccinated passengers? Do all domestic pax need a negative PCR test to board?
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Old Oct 28, 21, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by grapegrower View Post
.... When making domestic connections in the USA will we be flying with unvaccinated passengers? ....
Yes
Originally Posted by grapegrower View Post
....Do all domestic pax need a negative PCR test to board? ....
No


Exception is travel to Hawaii (by other USA residents) requires one or the other or quarantine on arrival

Last edited by WineCountryUA; Oct 28, 21 at 9:43 pm Reason: (by other USA residents)
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Old Oct 28, 21, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by grapegrower View Post
... have a negative PCR test within 72 hours of departure
Technically for flights to the US it's 3 days beforehand, although the difference is minimal.
eg, if your flight is at 11am on the 5th, you need a test from any time on the 2nd or later. (If it was 72 hours, you'd need a test taken at 11am or later on the 2nd).

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
Exception is travel to Hawaii requires one or the other or quarantine on arrival.
With the current rules, it's basically quarantine only - the others (mostly) aren't an option.

Hawaii currently requires vaccination IN THE US, which obviously most Australians won't have (with the exception of a small number of us that live in the US). It also requires testing by an approved testing provider, and there are none of those in Australia, and they have stated they aren't adding any more. Which leaves quarantine as the only viable option.

Of course, the rules will potentially change...
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Old Oct 28, 21, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by docbert View Post
.... With the current rules, it's basically quarantine only - the others (mostly) aren't an option.......
My response was for travel in the US by US residents -- thought the OP was asking about rules for other travels, not themselves for domestic US travel. Have clarified the original post.

Rules for international travelers to Hawaii are the same but as you point out going directly to Hawaii has complications. But don't believe that was the OP's question

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