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FT thread-->United Announces SFO-Brisbane (BNE), Australia
AU Govt--->Digital Passenger Declaration
AU Govt-->Inbound international travel
Pre departure testing not required from 18 April 2022
AU Govt--->COVID-19 and the border
AU Govt-->COVID-19 and the border- Travel restrictions and exemptions
Main AU CV19 thread-->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oceania-australia-new-zealand-south-pacific/2012985-australia-s-response-covid-19-general-border-control-thread.html
"Year-round, nonstop service between Brisbane and San Francisco starts in October "
AU Govt-->Inbound international travel
Pre Departure Testing
From 18 April 2022, changes to pre-departure testing for travelling to Australia will come into effect. Travellers are reminded that it is your responsibility to ensure you meet the requirements of the airline you are travelling with and any countries you transit through.
From 18 April 2022, changes to pre-departure testing for travelling to Australia will come into effect. Travellers are reminded that it is your responsibility to ensure you meet the requirements of the airline you are travelling with and any countries you transit through.
AU Govt--->COVID-19 and the border
AU Govt-->COVID-19 and the border- Travel restrictions and exemptions
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From 21 February 2022, all fully vaccinated visa holders can travel to Australia without a travel exemption. Unvaccinated visa holders will still need a valid travel exemption to enter Australia.
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From 21 February 2022, all fully vaccinated visa holders can travel to Australia without a travel exemption. Unvaccinated visa holders will still need a valid travel exemption to enter Australia.
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United's Operations during Australia's Reopening
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Airlines, including UA, have been impacted in the past when the government changed quotas without notice, causing the them to cancel hundreds of bookings (and in many cases, entire flights), so it's not surprising they aren't opening booking at this stage until there's some more clarity around numbers/start dates/additional conditions/etc.
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If Australia's rules are like other countries, citizenship should count. US/AU dual citizen here - and hoping for the same.
But Australia has been making up their own rules for 18 months; they could do anything. Permission to leave would be bizarre; I guess I'd just show my US passport on departure and try that (and you, your Green Card?)
Re: UA - I hope their schedules are updated soon.
But Australia has been making up their own rules for 18 months; they could do anything. Permission to leave would be bizarre; I guess I'd just show my US passport on departure and try that (and you, your Green Card?)
Re: UA - I hope their schedules are updated soon.
Agree it would be good to see UA have more seats but I have given up on this Christmas. Don't blame UA. I would be nervous about planning for additional seats/pax flights to Australia when other countries are providing certainty.
Edit: If you enter Australia with your Australian passport you need to use the same passport to leave. Alwsts a hassle with my child who is dual citizen like you.
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I suspect the trigger for the change was to simplify the process at the airport. I departed Australia a month or two before they bought this change into effect, and at the check-in the agent had to go through a manual process of calling someone in immigration to get approval to check me in given that I hadn't followed the standard pre-approval process (which wasn't required for non-residents at the time). Having a single process for all Australian citizens makes sense.
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People are being to optimistic and hoping for too much
From another thread
From another thread
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Yes - and yes it's a limited number of people - but it's still more people than there are now. Also, with QF coming back into the game, a huge supply increase for a limited number of AU passengers. UA needs to make themselves available to ANY AU travelers that they can if they want to stay in the AU game.
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On the local news this morning in Honolulu - multiple stories about Australians being able to internationally travel later this year and its expected economic impact to Hawaii. On the other hand - they also stated Americans won't be able to go to Australia - anytime soon - sometime in 2022 at the earliest.
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The next phase is actually restoring them to the previous levels from before the most recent reduction.
They can't actually go away completely because hotel quarantine places will still need to be rationed.
Somehow they need to figure out how to cap those seats while allowing fully vaccinated folk to have no cap. Not sure how they get that to work.
Perhaps they need to switch to an NZ style system where you book your HQ place first, then book a flight. Then it's no longer on the airline to ration seats, people either are vaccinated or have a HQ slot before they book a ticket.
They can't actually go away completely because hotel quarantine places will still need to be rationed.
Somehow they need to figure out how to cap those seats while allowing fully vaccinated folk to have no cap. Not sure how they get that to work.
Perhaps they need to switch to an NZ style system where you book your HQ place first, then book a flight. Then it's no longer on the airline to ration seats, people either are vaccinated or have a HQ slot before they book a ticket.
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Seems to be comments from people who are *not* in Australia. Do not believe all you read in click bait headlines
The NZ MIQ is far better than the AU system, where airlines effectively auction the AU state (VIC, NSW, QLD etc) run quarantine hotels. Problem with both AU & NZ is quarantine demand is a magnitude more than availability.. AU govt is building new dedicated quarantine facilities: they will be used.
--->Australia’s response to Covid-19 [general border control thread]
The NZ MIQ is far better than the AU system, where airlines effectively auction the AU state (VIC, NSW, QLD etc) run quarantine hotels. Problem with both AU & NZ is quarantine demand is a magnitude more than availability.. AU govt is building new dedicated quarantine facilities: they will be used.
--->Australia’s response to Covid-19 [general border control thread]
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Of course, there's also potentially vaccinated people that will need (possibly shorter) hotel quarantine due to lack of anywhere else to quarantine. Hard to judge what the numbers there would be.
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I know they started keeping track of vaccination status of arriving passengers some time back - it would be good to see the numbers from that. My suspicion is that 95+% of all arrivals (or at least, those above 12 or 16) are already vaccinated. If only 5% of arriving passengers need hotel quarantine then there may be no need to ration then. Certainly when I flew to Australia in April, 100% of the passengers I spoke to claimed to be vaccinated.
They are also a bit meaningless on the pessimistic side because there is probably a huge pool of folk like myself that are vaccinated but can't justify 2 weeks of HQ, but once home quarantine / no quarantine is a thing will be lining up to get on a plane.
Of course, there's also potentially vaccinated people that will need (possibly shorter) hotel quarantine due to lack of anywhere else to quarantine. Hard to judge what the numbers there would be.
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My original post isn't about the current situation, it's about what is expected in Mid-November, when 80% of the 16+ population are fully vaxed.
CNN.com
AU Covid Live
CNN.com
The move -- expected to take effect in November -- comes more than 18 months .. .
Under the plan outlined by Morrison Friday, Australians and permanent residents would be allowed to quarantine at home -- which would essentially remove the caps limiting the number of people allowed into the country. Those travelers would also only face seven days of quarantine.
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I was just pointing out that we haven't even seen Phase B be implemented yet.
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On the local news this morning in Honolulu - multiple stories about Australians being able to internationally travel later this year and its expected economic impact to Hawaii. On the other hand - they also stated Americans won't be able to go to Australia - anytime soon - sometime in 2022 at the earliest.
In another thread it was mentioned that Hawaii is only allowing persons vaccinated in the US to enter. Is this correct?