Denver issues: 19 Aug 2021 WX / Gate availability & 20 Aug concourse train breakdown
Aug 19, 2021, 10:39 pm
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Denver issues: 19 Aug 2021 WX / Gate availability & 20 Aug concourse train breakdown
Wow. Sitting here at DIA waiting for Ms BHF. Plane (second one - more on that) landed (UA2485) at 9:41 and AN HOUR LATER they are still waiting for a ramp crew.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Aug 19, 2021, 10:52 pm
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Looks like some nearby thunderstroms
Any lightning strikes?
Flight Aware reports
Any lightning strikes?
Flight Aware reports
Denver Intl (KDEN) is currently experiencing departure delays an average of 1 hours 42 minutes (and increasing).
Aug 20, 2021, 8:11 am
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New mess at DEN on August 20
Wow. Sitting here at DIA waiting for Ms BHF. Plane (second one - more on that) landed (UA2485) at 9:41 and AN HOUR LATER they are still waiting for a ramp crew.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Aug 20, 2021, 8:40 am
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Wow. Sitting here at DIA waiting for Ms BHF. Plane (second one - more on that) landed (UA2485) at 9:41 and AN HOUR LATER they are still waiting for a ramp crew.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Aug 20, 2021, 10:07 am
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A couple of flights being delayed and stuck on a ramp is basically the "norm" at EWR. So not sure how this even qualifies as a meltdown. The hyperbole in the title is something else.
But I do find this interesting. The fly.faa.gov website lists DEN as the only non-green airport right now with the following reason:
Due to AIRLINE REQUEST, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Denver International Airport, Denver, CO (DEN). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 28 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".
It doesn't list the airline. Could be UA, could be F9. Luckily I'm flying via IAH today.
-RM
But I do find this interesting. The fly.faa.gov website lists DEN as the only non-green airport right now with the following reason:
Due to AIRLINE REQUEST, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Denver International Airport, Denver, CO (DEN). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 28 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".
It doesn't list the airline. Could be UA, could be F9. Luckily I'm flying via IAH today.
-RM
Aug 20, 2021, 10:18 am
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a couple of flights being delayed and stuck on a ramp is basically the "norm" at ewr. So not sure how this even qualifies as a meltdown. The hyperbole in the title is something else.
But i do find this interesting. The fly.faa.gov website lists den as the only non-green airport right now with the following reason:
due to airline request, there is a traffic management program in effect for traffic arriving denver international airport, denver, co (den). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 28 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "delays by destination".
it doesn't list the airline. Could be ua, could be f9. Luckily i'm flying via iah today.
-rm
But i do find this interesting. The fly.faa.gov website lists den as the only non-green airport right now with the following reason:
due to airline request, there is a traffic management program in effect for traffic arriving denver international airport, denver, co (den). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 28 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "delays by destination".
it doesn't list the airline. Could be ua, could be f9. Luckily i'm flying via iah today.
-rm
UAL MAINLINE AND SUBCARRIER ONLY GROUND DELAY PROGRAM NOW IN AFFECT,
AIRLINE REQUEST. AIRCRAFT ARE RELEASED ON EDCTS.
Filler to satisfy the forum.
Aug 20, 2021, 10:18 am
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One of the trains tracks (west) is down this am…TSA thru put reduced by 75 percent to keep from filling up trains lobby.
currently sitting on a plane delaying push waiting for late running pax to get thru security
Believe airport and airlines requested ground stop inbound to try and slow down the cascading effect
i fly DEN weekly…worst I have ever seen…very bad here
currently sitting on a plane delaying push waiting for late running pax to get thru security
Believe airport and airlines requested ground stop inbound to try and slow down the cascading effect
i fly DEN weekly…worst I have ever seen…very bad here
Aug 20, 2021, 10:23 am
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It seemed like it was weather to me. I was stuck in DEN for a 5 hour delay.
Aug 20, 2021, 10:30 am
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About an hour of some pretty insane thunderstorms in the area around 3pm. Two tornado warnings kind of near (south and west of) the airport. It's been a while since that much rain fell in that short amount of time.
Aug 20, 2021, 10:56 am
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Wow. Sitting here at DIA waiting for Ms BHF. Plane (second one - more on that) landed (UA2485) at 9:41 and AN HOUR LATER they are still waiting for a ramp crew.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Adding insult to injury to my wife was the fact that she was on UA407 which they turned around and sent back to Chicago when a wee thunderstorm went over the field. Crew timed out, stranding a 777 worth of pax in Chicago.
This can’t just be weather - must be lack of employees or something else.
Aug 20, 2021, 11:33 am
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The only part of this I can comment on is the "wee thunderstorm" comment. As a Captain, there is NO wee thunderstorm. Airliners have crashed because of pilot hubris in thinking they can beat the weather, or it won't be that bad. I will ALWAYS delay or divert if the weather picture doesn't meet my personal standards for safety. I am certain my peers feel the same way.
The takeoff is optional, the landing is mandatory... And I'm sure you want to get to our (intended) destination as quickly and safely as I do -- after all if something does happen your odds and my odds aren't that diverged.A diversion or delay may be inconvenient (though I remember being amused by a diversion to ATL on an ORD-JAX because of icing conditions between ATL and JAX and our AC had been dispatched with antiice inop) but it's a lot better than letting the get-there-itis get you dead.
Aug 20, 2021, 11:45 am
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Aug 20, 2021, 12:43 pm
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I fly out of DEN weekly and I can tell you that they have the worst reliability on the escalators, moving sidewalks and trains. It is rare to find everything running on any given day. The escalators and moving sidewalks seem to be the biggest issue as one or more all always out of order with the yellow barriiers up and guys crawling around inside.
Aug 20, 2021, 1:11 pm
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There needs to be a backup plan. When the train fails, B and C are totally cut off. Maybe it’s a long walk. Maybe no one will use it when the train is working. But a walkway needs to be added.