EWR Terminal One now New Terminal A

Old Sep 27, 21, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
Other buildings in the PANYNJ portfolio with arguably greater architectural or historical gravitas (Sundrome, Worldport, AA stained glass wall, LGA hangars) have been unceremoniously torn down in the modern era, so I am not particularly optimistic that the current Terminal A will be afforded any special status.
I know several people that led the Save the Worldport campaign, and as far as I can tell, there's absolutely no love lost for Terminal A. Not even in the same stratosphere.

I understood and support the saving of Building 1 (which is an Art Deco *masterpiece*!) but Terminal A? That thing can't leave soon enough.
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Old Sep 27, 21, 5:00 pm
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I've read that the existing A "headhouse" was to be designated or already was designated as a historical building. And B and C are each quite different from the original design now... I guess we'll see what happens when the existing monorail is replaced. Oh - and get ready to walk. The replacement will be incnvenient and quite the PANYNJ boondoggle. I guess it's fitting, then.

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Here is a map of the proposed replacement:


From a people mover standpoint, this is chaos. The walk to Terminal B, holy cow, and I thought the walk from AirTrain JFK to Terminal 5 is long. The current compactness and quick entry/exit from EWR terminals to/from AirTrain to/from rail station is a positive standpoint. Spending untold amount of $ to make things worse - amazing.
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
I've read that the existing A "headhouse" was to be designated or already was designated as a historical building. And B and C are each quite different from the original design now... I guess we'll see what happens when the existing monorail is replaced. Oh - and get ready to walk. The replacement will be incnvenient and quite the PANYNJ boondoggle. I guess it's fitting, then.

Comments from an article on the replacement:

Here is a map of the proposed replacement:


Why does this remind me of IAD's AeroTrain?

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Old Sep 27, 21, 6:56 pm
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Did some quick research... can't find any documentation to support the notion that Terminal A is on any sort of historical register. The old PA Administration Building, Marine Air Terminal and TWA Flight Center are the only terminal buildings at the PANYNJ airports designated as such.

There's really no unusual architectural or historical signifance of the Terminal A headhouse that would make it worthy of preservation. Too big, too expensive and not important enough to do so, IMO.
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Old Sep 27, 21, 7:18 pm
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Spending untold amount of $ to make things worse - amazing.
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Even with a United Club membership, A2 was a dump. The new terminal can't be any worse. That said, if they are planning to redevelop the entire airport, one terminal at a time, I sure hope they build a mass transit option that makes sense. The current AirTrain is dinky, is way too slow, but it gets the job done. If they build a replacement merely accounting for the new Terminal A, that is really asinine...unless they anticipate it will take decades to get other parts of the airport done. Not unlikely given the bureaucracy managing it!
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Old Sep 28, 21, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 View Post
Even with a United Club membership, A2 was a dump. The new terminal can't be any worse. That said, if they are planning to redevelop the entire airport, one terminal at a time, I sure hope they build a mass transit option that makes sense. The current AirTrain is dinky, is way too slow, but it gets the job done. If they build a replacement merely accounting for the new Terminal A, that is really asinine...unless they anticipate it will take decades to get other parts of the airport done. Not unlikely given the bureaucracy managing it!
The long term plan IIRC is at least to replace B in 10 or 15 years. Have a look at the map I posted - the blue bit is where the B replacement ges. I think that to build the new train the way it is proposed is completely stupid. A 2,200 foot walk / moving walkway leads one to ask, "What are they thinking?"
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The current AirTrain is dinky, is way too slow, but it gets the job done. If they build a replacement merely accounting for the new Terminal A, that is really asinine...unless they anticipate it will take decades to get other parts of the airport done. Not unlikely given the bureaucracy managing it!
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I think that to build the new train the way it is proposed is completely stupid. A 2,200 foot walk / moving walkway leads one to ask, "What are they thinking?"
"We like what IAD did with theirs!"
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"We like what IAD did with theirs!"
...but our inconvenient walkway to the train will be even longer. We're number ne!
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
The long term plan IIRC is at least to replace B in 10 or 15 years. Have a look at the map I posted - the blue bit is where the B replacement ges. I think that to build the new train the way it is proposed is completely stupid. A 2,200 foot walk / moving walkway leads one to ask, "What are they thinking?"
Here's a guess: The PA plans to tear down Terminal B and build a new one centered between the current (old) A and B. The proposed rail station 2 would become the stop for this new Terminal B and be nominally the same distance as between C and it's stop, a shorter walk than from the current B. Of course if the timeline resembles the temporary IAD C and D concourses, it won't be much of a plan.
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Originally Posted by JimInOhio View Post
Here's a guess: The PA plans to tear down Terminal B and build a new one centered between the current (old) A and B. The proposed rail station 2 would become the stop for this new Terminal B and be nominally the same distance as between C and it's stop, a shorter walk than from the current B. Of course if the timeline resembles the temporary IAD C and D concourses, it won't be much of a plan.
Thats exactly the plan, and I suspect a B replacement will come about a bit sooner than the 10-15 year timeframe. I expect planning to be pretty far along by the middle of the decade, with construction likely underway by 2027-28. Once new A opens, the emphasis goes to the AirTrain replacement, and after that, it will be the B replacement.

Joking aside, the PANYNJ is a bit different now than it was 30-40 years ago, and even as compared to the aughts and 2010s, when the entire agency’s focus was on the WTC redevelopment. The major airport projects of recent years (LGA, EWR A) have gone off - thus far - according to plan, mostly on time, and without significant cost overrun. IMO, a sign of organizational progress.
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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
Why does this remind me of IAD's AeroTrain?
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"We like what IAD did with theirs!"
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...but our inconvenient walkway to the train will be even longer. We're number ne!
"...and excel at still being Number Two..."

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As I was departing EWR on April 2, I noted that the A-1 banjo was being demolished. I was told that demolition started the day befre. I guess the new terminal A will be opening in the next few months...



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Judging by the earthcams alone, I just can't imagine that they are going to meet the stated opening of "Spring 2022" in the next 33 days, and for that matter it seems like Summer is a longshot. Hope I'm wrong https://www.ewrredevelopment.com/earthcam/
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