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Appears UA is no longer auto-spliting PNRs to get on the gate waitlist but PNRs are still split if successful clearing at gate. And each passenger may or may not clear separately
Prior thread: The stupid PNR auto-splitting at T-24 needs to stop
related thread: To split or not to split PNR
Prior thread: The stupid PNR auto-splitting at T-24 needs to stop
related thread: To split or not to split PNR
No more splitting PNRs to get on the upgrade list? (but still split if upgraded)
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No more splitting PNRs to get on the upgrade list? (but still split if upgraded)
I checked into a flight today with one companion on the PNR and instruments (P+) attached. The reservation did not appear to split - we are both listed under one confirmation code in the app. However we are also both listed on the upgrade list. Does anyone know if this behavior has changed?
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I checked into a flight today with one companion on the PNR and instruments (P+) attached. The reservation did not appear to split - we are both listed under one confirmation code in the app. However we are also both listed on the upgrade list. Does anyone know if this behavior has changed?
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No more splitting PNRs to get on the upgrade list?
Recently noticed when checking in and getting added to the upgrade list that the reservation doesn't seem to split until the upgrade actually clears... anyone else have this experience?
Still stinks that it splits on upgrade, but an improvement at least.
On the downside it seems to lose the KTN for the PAX on the split reservation.
Still stinks that it splits on upgrade, but an improvement at least.
On the downside it seems to lose the KTN for the PAX on the split reservation.
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Recently noticed when checking in and getting added to the upgrade list that the reservation doesn't seem to split until the upgrade actually clears... anyone else have this experience?
Still stinks that it splits on upgrade, but an improvement at least.
On the downside it seems to lose the KTN for the PAX on the split reservation.
Still stinks that it splits on upgrade, but an improvement at least.
On the downside it seems to lose the KTN for the PAX on the split reservation.
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To my knowledge, SHARES is not capable of doing that. That's why the choice has always been either split, or no upgrade.
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My wife's boarding pass did not have Pre Check when I kept our original PNR, main reason not to split since she used to have Pre Check when traveling with me on same PNR in 2019.
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So if the top of the list is a pair, and inventory is J3, the CPU sweep will just hold at T-24h, regardless of whether they have checked in or not and agreed to split or not. If it goes to the gate and there is still one seat left, the gate agent will trigger the split.
That is my best understanding of how it works currently.
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This is one of those inherent SHARES limitations (like inability to clear dynamically) that has plagued UA's systems ever since the merger.
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In other words, until the PNR is split, since SHARES can't process upgrades on a multi-passenger itinerary.
If that's an intentional change in the process, it doesn't make much sense. Freeze the whole upgrade process because there's one multi-pax PNR?
This is one of those inherent SHARES limitations (like inability to clear dynamically) that has plagued UA's systems ever since the merger.
If that's an intentional change in the process, it doesn't make much sense. Freeze the whole upgrade process because there's one multi-pax PNR?
This is one of those inherent SHARES limitations (like inability to clear dynamically) that has plagued UA's systems ever since the merger.
I won't argue that the change is reasonable, but I have observed multiple cases for which it seems to be the explanation. There are also scattered reports here of people not being immediately split on check-in despite agreeing to it.
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SHARES can’t handle pax in different classes on the same PNR. If upgrades for all pax on the record can clear at once, the PNR doesn’t have to split. Minor nuance but meaningful.
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She does.
So I had an outbound and return to MCO the past two weeks. On the outbound, checked in, opted for the split. When checking bags at ORD, we were still on the same PNR. This was new to me - usually the PNR split immediately after opting for the upgrade list.
On the return, did the same thing, only this time the upgrade cleared, and we had different PNRs when checking bags at MCO. (But the KTN from her MP account did not make it to the new PNR, which she didn't notice until at the TSA agent, but she was able to go back to the kiosk and add the KTN herself.)
So it seems like adding a multi-PAX PNR to the upgrade list no longer splits it until an upgrade actually happens.
I don't think they hold the whole queue; our upgrade was processed well before we got to the airport (and the PNR was split at that time.)
We did both get processed at the same time, so it seems even if there is J+2 the reservation still gets split.
On the return, did the same thing, only this time the upgrade cleared, and we had different PNRs when checking bags at MCO. (But the KTN from her MP account did not make it to the new PNR, which she didn't notice until at the TSA agent, but she was able to go back to the kiosk and add the KTN herself.)
So it seems like adding a multi-PAX PNR to the upgrade list no longer splits it until an upgrade actually happens.
I believe they've made some change to the check-in process. Now it seems to keep paired PNRs together and in place on the list until some other intervention is taken to clear one or both.
So if the top of the list is a pair, and inventory is J3, the CPU sweep will just hold at T-24h, regardless of whether they have checked in or not and agreed to split or not. If it goes to the gate and there is still one seat left, the gate agent will trigger the split.
So if the top of the list is a pair, and inventory is J3, the CPU sweep will just hold at T-24h, regardless of whether they have checked in or not and agreed to split or not. If it goes to the gate and there is still one seat left, the gate agent will trigger the split.
We did both get processed at the same time, so it seems even if there is J+2 the reservation still gets split.
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