UA waiving four segment requirement for non-U.S. residents (in 2021 for 2022 status)
Apr 30, 2021, 8:15 pm
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Apr 30, 2021, 8:53 pm
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So Australian MP members can now fly SYD-AKL on ANZ and requalify for UA 1K. ✈️
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Apr 30, 2021, 9:41 pm
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There is a post in the Choose Your Way promo thread from UA Insider in which he seemed (to me) to implicitly say "we're making it rain PQPs this year, that'll be the way to continued status". UA wants revenue and is rewarding with very generous PQPs in the various promotions. Those who don't want to give UA money this year? You're on your own...
t read it that way -- I read that they're not going to give away PQF, but they can certainly continue to give away PQP like candy.
Apr 30, 2021, 10:16 pm
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PQF? I don't think most people other than my craziness are going step onto 36+ paid UA flights, especially given all of the bonus PQPs the last 2Qs. Also, the difference between lower PQP threshold w/PQF and higher PQP threshold w/o PQF is not that big with overall reduction in requirements.
UA seems to be telegraphing the message of - we are giving you the key, we don't even want your money (directly), but you still have to fly/spend with other carriers (and credit to us) to qualify/re-qualify. And, no more free handouts (extensions).
UA seems to be telegraphing the message of - we are giving you the key, we don't even want your money (directly), but you still have to fly/spend with other carriers (and credit to us) to qualify/re-qualify. And, no more free handouts (extensions).
In which foreign markets does UA still have a bank issuing UA-branded credit cards? I know they were to pull out of the UK last summer, but beside that I haven't paid attention to UA credit card products beyond the US.
May 1, 2021, 12:18 am
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It's a start in the right direction, but again I think they will need to look at the markets a bit more carefully. There are clearly some markets where this is a real breath of fresh air, I'm thinking namely of the EU market which not only has a number of Star Alliance airlines (e.g. LH, LX, OS, SK, TK, A3) but has a number of destinations that can earn the milage necessary to hit whatever requisite PQP requirements there are. On the other hand, some markets may not permit travel on Star Alliance due to various travel restrictions. Other markets, such as Australia, may only have one Star Alliance airline you can fly legally (Air New Zealand) without any restrictions and the potential for earning PQPs on such a market is limited (e.g. 538 PQP on an NZ discounted J fare roundtrip).
Perhaps UA will roll out more bonuses and more waivers for those of us in these international markets where travel is largely restricted. I can certainly get where they are coming from in wanting to get their most loyal customers to come back to them now that travel restrictions are beginning to be lifted. However, I do question whether dropping the 4 segment requirement on UA incentivises the wrong behaviour and punishes their most elite members. Case in point, prior to this COVID nonsense happening, I could count on one hand the number of times I flew a Star Alliance partner during 2019 compared to the many dozens of times I flew UA. What does it say to elites like myself that we won't get our UA status because we couldn't sufficiently cheat on UA in the limited markets where we could fly one of their rivals?
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Perhaps UA will roll out more bonuses and more waivers for those of us in these international markets where travel is largely restricted. I can certainly get where they are coming from in wanting to get their most loyal customers to come back to them now that travel restrictions are beginning to be lifted. However, I do question whether dropping the 4 segment requirement on UA incentivises the wrong behaviour and punishes their most elite members. Case in point, prior to this COVID nonsense happening, I could count on one hand the number of times I flew a Star Alliance partner during 2019 compared to the many dozens of times I flew UA. What does it say to elites like myself that we won't get our UA status because we couldn't sufficiently cheat on UA in the limited markets where we could fly one of their rivals?
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May 1, 2021, 1:37 am
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I'll take what I can get, but being in a country with no domestic travel and border restrictions to all countries (for tourism), I'm probably the 1K they don't mind losing. When I can start traveling back to the USA & Europe, it makes the jump to being a free agent a bit smoother.
May 1, 2021, 2:42 am
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I'll take what I can get, but being in a country with no domestic travel and border restrictions to all countries (for tourism), I'm probably the 1K they don't mind losing. When I can start traveling back to the USA & Europe, it makes the jump to being a free agent a bit smoother.
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May 1, 2021, 5:56 am
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May 1, 2021, 6:04 am
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I wonder if they waived the PQP requirement for you in the past
May 1, 2021, 6:34 am
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May 1, 2021, 8:08 am
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