UA investigating disclosure of prominent customer's flight info
#31
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 19,502
Shockingly, the disclosure here does not appear to be covered by UA's policy.
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...ng_information
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...ng_information
...this Privacy Policy is not a contract nor does it otherwise create any legal rights or obligations. Rather, this Privacy Policy merely reflects guidelines setting forth United’s intended business practices.
#32
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,184
I can assure you that the ethics training that all of us undergo is very clear that we can not share passenger information, even with other employees, without going through proper approval channels.
#33
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,305
Give how IBM licenses mainframe software, I wouldn't be shocked if they tracked record accesses.... if for no other reason than to figure out who's consuming CICS transactions!
#34
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
That is meaningless language put in place to minimize liability. It might be slightly helpful to UA in a lawsuit seeking money damages -- stress "might" -- but not for the employee who violates it.
#35
#36
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,162
When I've called to fix my wife's reservations (we kept our respective surnames...aside from the "what's the point" factor we figured with all the trouble I've had with a hyphenated last name from birth doing a double hyphenation would just be inviting problems) you can tell the agent's hesitancy goes up just as does the number of verification questions I'm asked.
But for 100 great employees there's bound to be one that doesn't realize the potential sensitivity of a traveler's travel plans (ignore the true VIP/celeb/public figure but imagine an exec negotiating a sensitive business transaction, or someone with a crazy ex/stalker, or...)
#37
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,404
And I think the vast, vast majority of time employees are, if anything, overly cautious about it. Every time a UA employee has taken a selfie with me (for Twitter or other purposes) I've been asked at least 3 times if it's OK to take the picture, if its OK to post the picture, if I'm sure it's OK to post the picture etc. Next time it happens I wouldn't be at all surprised if they pull out a waiver/release.
When I've called to fix my wife's reservations (we kept our respective surnames...aside from the "what's the point" factor we figured with all the trouble I've had with a hyphenated last name from birth doing a double hyphenation would just be inviting problems) you can tell the agent's hesitancy goes up just as does the number of verification questions I'm asked.
But for 100 great employees there's bound to be one that doesn't realize the potential sensitivity of a traveler's travel plans (ignore the true VIP/celeb/public figure but imagine an exec negotiating a sensitive business transaction, or someone with a crazy ex/stalker, or...)
When I've called to fix my wife's reservations (we kept our respective surnames...aside from the "what's the point" factor we figured with all the trouble I've had with a hyphenated last name from birth doing a double hyphenation would just be inviting problems) you can tell the agent's hesitancy goes up just as does the number of verification questions I'm asked.
But for 100 great employees there's bound to be one that doesn't realize the potential sensitivity of a traveler's travel plans (ignore the true VIP/celeb/public figure but imagine an exec negotiating a sensitive business transaction, or someone with a crazy ex/stalker, or...)
#38
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
There are all kinds of reasons why a person might not want their data disclosed. It is not for UA to determine whether those are good or bad reasons.
In fact, there are many people who simply do not want their data disclosed because they value their privacy even though nobody really cares. That is their prerogative and UA has agreed to honor that prerogative.
In fact, there are many people who simply do not want their data disclosed because they value their privacy even though nobody really cares. That is their prerogative and UA has agreed to honor that prerogative.
#39
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 19,502
#40
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: TX
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 729
#41
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: TX
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 729
If an agent or agents leaked to a third party like a family member or friend, or even to another employee of United, then that agent or agents should be fired.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Feb 22, 2021 at 8:11 pm Reason: Removed response to deleted comment
#42
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,123
Discipline of some sort? Yes, but firing is going too far, especially if the employee has no history of private information sharing.
#43
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,447
Except it isn't - his name started to appear on a publicly available upgrade list. As soon as Cruz changed his flight - anyone could see he was on that flight - no source at United needed to tell anyone that - quite frankly, the travel blogger, in my opinion - is just puffing himself up by saying he had a UA source when he probably just saw it on the upgrade list.
#44
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,123
Except it isn't - his name started to appear on a publicly available upgrade list. As soon as Cruz changed his flight - anyone could see he was on that flight - no source at United needed to tell anyone that - quite frankly, the travel blogger, in my opinion - is just puffing himself up by saying he had a UA source when he probably just saw it on the upgrade list.
#45
Join Date: May 2006
Location: PMD
Programs: UA*G, NW, AA-G. WR-P, HH-G, IHG-S, ALL. TT-GE.
Posts: 2,910
Except it isn't - his name started to appear on a publicly available upgrade list. As soon as Cruz changed his flight - anyone could see he was on that flight - no source at United needed to tell anyone that - quite frankly, the travel blogger, in my opinion - is just puffing himself up by saying he had a UA source when he probably just saw it on the upgrade list.
If CRU, R was a smart UA Premier flyer, he could (1) buy F/J, (2) fly through ORD or other UA hubs where people aren't monitoring, (3) just fly another airline. Or he should've just vacationed in Hawaii (no CPU on IAH-HNL). But he just changed his flight, and because it took time to get through COVID testing, gave enough time for cameras to be readied at CUN, and of course IAH.