UA Mainland-Hawaii Lie-Flats
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This, especially on Fridays-Mondays. I've seen HNL flights on those days go out with empty F seats even after clearing the entire upgrade list (including nonrevs), but OGG flights are almost always fully booked up front, sometimes well in advance of the CPU windows. Midweek flights still seem to be decent to excellent bets for CPUs, however.
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#18
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A lot of people connect in Honolulu to/from outer islands, especially off of non-West Coast flights. Maui has always been much more expensive than Oahu. Stats for January 2021 (numbers versus 1 year ago). Wailea area managed to raise rates even with miserable occupancy numbers. I've always thought UA could run a high J Polaris 763 between SFO and Maui on Saturdays and do pretty good $-wise up front.
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What jumped out at me was ADR in Wailea of $807. That's a demographic that will pay for lie-flat J (when not flying private).
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#22
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Lie flat seats to Hawaii
Appears UA is the only one offering lie flats in J for the SFO-HNL flight.
Flights between SFO or SJC and other Hawaiian airports are "standard recliners" across all airlines?
So do people here fly to/from Hawaii strictly through HNL or do open-leg because the additional transit to/from HNL isn't worth it just for lie flat seats. Have they put in Polaris seats on these flights?
Flights between SFO or SJC and other Hawaiian airports are "standard recliners" across all airlines?
So do people here fly to/from Hawaii strictly through HNL or do open-leg because the additional transit to/from HNL isn't worth it just for lie flat seats. Have they put in Polaris seats on these flights?
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No, and I doubt they ever will. It wouldn't be profitable (or at least not as profitable as Polaris routes).
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Another oddity of the schedule. There's a UA1111 which is a 757 with lie flats, direct SFO-LIH. But around the end of May or early June, that fight stops and there are two flights a day but neither of them have LF. One of them is a 737 in fact.
Why wouldn't they continue to run the 757 with the LF in the summer?
Why wouldn't they continue to run the 757 with the LF in the summer?
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Another oddity of the schedule. There's a UA1111 which is a 757 with lie flats, direct SFO-LIH. But around the end of May or early June, that fight stops and there are two flights a day but neither of them have LF. One of them is a 737 in fact.
Why wouldn't they continue to run the 757 with the LF in the summer?
Why wouldn't they continue to run the 757 with the LF in the summer?
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#28
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There's a ton of Polaris seat options into the islands this summer, with new routes like ORD-KOA with both Polaris and Premium Economy cabins selling. The bigger question is whether or not Polaris will continue to fly to Hawaii when international service returns.