Passenger With Coronavirus Dies On United Flight (UA591 MCO-LAX 14 Dec 2020)
Dec 18, 2020, 1:12 pm
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they would then all say that OTHERS shouldn't do the same.
Alternative may be separating from family, or very expensive. Is it even feasible to check IN to a hotel or pickup a rental car for a cross country drive if saying "I'm here because I have covid"??
I saw these shortly after my post, thx
I suspect everyone on that UA flight will be flying free for a while as a gesture of goodwill/damage control. Perhaps gift cards for 'unexpected holiday quarantine' expenses.
Dec 18, 2020, 1:13 pm
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Having been on a flight that diverted (to ORD>DEN>SFO) to off-load a deceased pax two or three years ago, I feel awful for the people on board that had to deal with this. A good example of why the issue of liability around Covid is such a political football in D.C. right now.
To the notes above, clearly the instances of people flying while knowingly infected was always well above zero. Just disappointing that people can rationalize self interest that much. WSJ article is going to keep UA PR busy this weekend.
To the notes above, clearly the instances of people flying while knowingly infected was always well above zero. Just disappointing that people can rationalize self interest that much. WSJ article is going to keep UA PR busy this weekend.
Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 pm
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Having been on a flight that diverted (to ORD>DEN>SFO) to off-load a deceased pax two or three years ago, I feel awful for the people on board that had to deal with this. A good example of why the issue of liability around Covid is such a political football in D.C. right now.
To the notes above, clearly the instances of people flying while knowingly infected was always well above zero. Just disappointing that people can rationalize self interest that much. WSJ article is going to keep UA PR busy this weekend.
To the notes above, clearly the instances of people flying while knowingly infected was always well above zero. Just disappointing that people can rationalize self interest that much. WSJ article is going to keep UA PR busy this weekend.
Dec 18, 2020, 4:16 pm
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No one plans for a 14-day quarantine in addition to their original itinerary. Economics becomes a factor in the decision. Also, what is the guarantee a hotel will let you check in for a 14-day quarantine after one tests positive. There are aspects to "putting everyone at risk" that are not being discussed.
Dec 18, 2020, 10:07 pm
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Dec 18, 2020, 10:31 pm
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Dec 18, 2020, 11:39 pm
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So all other factors aside, let me get this straight - a passenger passed away inflight from a full-blown infection of coronavirus, and all United did to mediate the risk to current - and future - passengers on this particular aircraft is wipe down the deceased passengers seat???
Dec 18, 2020, 11:45 pm
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So all other factors aside, let me get this straight - a passenger passed away inflight from a full-blown infection of coronavirus, and all United did to mediate the risk to current - and future - passengers on this particular aircraft is wipe down the deceased passengers seat???
Dec 18, 2020, 11:48 pm
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Dec 18, 2020, 11:55 pm
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Dec 19, 2020, 12:07 am
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Don't believe there has been a released cause of death but some speculation elsewhere focuses on heart failure -- certainty reported symptoms and the chest compressions would be consistent with that. The wife did stated the husband had tested COVID positive but not much more than that is not known, so perhaps best to wait for more information
There is absolutely zero excuse for simply wiping down one seat, placing the aircraft in service, and then calling "mission accomplished".
Dec 19, 2020, 12:12 am
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I don't think we, or United needed to wait for an official cause of death - a responsible company run by competent leaders would connect the dots available at that moment in time which references a coronavirus positive customer showing signs of respiratory distress who then passes away during the flight. The appropriate measure is to remove all customers and employees from the aircraft and subject it to a thorough disinfectant and cleaning from front to back and top to bottom with a ventilation system filter change before placing it back in service, which would be accomplished long before an official cause of death is available.
There is absolutely zero excuse for simply wiping down one seat, placing the aircraft in service, and then calling "mission accomplished".
There is absolutely zero excuse for simply wiping down one seat, placing the aircraft in service, and then calling "mission accomplished".