UA or B6 SFO-BOS non-stop lie flat in March
Good evening Flyertalk gurus,
I have been trying to go SFO-BOS on lie flat seats several times since last March and the flights were canceled and substituted with 737 or A319 aircraft. I have a flight booked non-stop on B6 in June. In March I see a great price to to BOS on UA and a higher price by about $300 to fly on B6. Should I take a chance on the UA flights to hopefully remain lie flat or buy the B6 flights which will probably remain lie flat? |
UA's domestic schedule / aircraft beyond Dec is just a placeholder. UA has dramatically reduced SFO<>BOS schedule, it is an under preforming route. Presently I would put no faith in UA in operating lie-flats on the route in the near future
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Had two SFO > BOS turns that went from lie flat 752s to 738s in December. Got rebooked via EWR to catch the flatbed for the transcon sectors.
If your goal is to guarantee a flatbed then either look to connect at EWR or research what B6 is doing with ensuring Mint is consistently operating on SFO > BOS. |
B6's schedule is unreliable. For example, they just dumped most of their very recently announced SFO-CUN nonstops, going from 14x per week to 2x per week. Only rebooking option I was offered for a Dec. 29 departure was two days earlier. Refunded and booked on AS at a much higher cost.
Basically anything you book right now on either B6 or UA for March is just a placeholder. |
B6 Mint every time, if the price is reasonable. Outstanding.
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B6 mint single if you can
Although you may have to settle for a 2x2x2 United lieflat via EWR |
With the uncertainty in the future of travel, I'll book whatever is cheaper.
From a comparison point of view, Mint is better IMO and JetBlue hasn't axed the SFO-BOS route (1~2 daily in December so I don't see this route being canceled altogether), but JetBlue will not offer as much flexibility in schedule change (can reroute via EWR on UA with potential Polaris configured a/c, while on B6 you will need to stick with a short-haul segment in Core in light of schedule change). |
Having just stepped off a Mint Transcon where I flew in 2A, I’d pick this product over anything AA/DL/UA have on offer right now. I think the only exception would be AA 77W flights from MIA to LAX where I would go based mainly on price because I do like the AA F seat comfort. The current B6 soft product destroys anything else in North America though.
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Personally, I find the Mint seat uncomfortable. It's the subpar Thompson Vantage, with a weird air cushion. And difficult to book a single, though booking now for next March you might get one. Mint service is much better than UA. The food reads better on the menu than it tastes IMO, but still certainly better than UA.
One nice thing about the carriers' current flexible booking policies is you can book a back-up on a different carrier (assuming you'll be able to use the flight credit down the road if you cancel). |
Originally Posted by cmd320
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Having just stepped off a Mint Transcon where I flew in 2A, I’d pick this product over anything AA/DL/UA have on offer right now. I think the only exception would be AA 77W flights from MIA to LAX where I would go based mainly on price because I do like the AA F seat comfort. The current B6 soft product destroys anything else in North America though.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
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B6's schedule is unreliable. For example, they just dumped most of their very recently announced SFO-CUN nonstops, going from 14x per week to 2x per week. Only rebooking option I was offered for a Dec. 29 departure was two days earlier. Refunded and booked on AS at a much higher cost.
Basically anything you book right now on either B6 or UA for March is just a placeholder. It's simply not the same thing. Also, BOS-SFO is no longer listed a premium transcon route on united website https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...-services.html |
Originally Posted by tphuang
(Post 32811920)
you are comparing a new route they added and might not stick around vs one of their core routes. They've been consistently running 2 to 3 flights a day on BOS-SFO, about the same as UA.
It's simply not the same thing. Also, BOS-SFO is no longer listed a premium transcon route on united website https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...-services.html BOS-SFO gone for good (I assume) is a huge loss for the BOS market ... that'll hurt once my business travel resumes. Sigh ... |
Originally Posted by tphuang
(Post 32811920)
It's simply not the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 32812237)
The point is that B6's scheduling, especially four months out, is not reliable. You actually dispute that?
With that said, the schedules at most airlines are shuffling heavily on about a monthly basis at this point so I'm not sure that criteria is specific to B6. AA and DL do major schedule changes each month right now to reduce flights. |
I would not spend a second on this issue until 4-6 weeks prior to iintended travel. That is particularly true when it is down to a specific aircraft required for lie-flat. By making a decision as to B6 vs. UA now, you may limit yourself later. If it comes to pass that there is a vaccine and the virus is wiped out next week, this advice will change.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 32812237)
The point is that B6's scheduling, especially four months out, is not reliable. You actually dispute that?
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Originally Posted by tphuang
(Post 32813260)
no doubt their schedule 4 months out is not reliable, so you will have to base it on what they have been operating. They have been operating 2 to 3 flights a day on that route for several months and it's all on mint.
If one purchases B6 or UA today, it may turn out that the other carrier would have been better for any number of reasons sometime next year. Thus, wait until close in and then book. If for some reason the world opens up again, one can always reevaluate. Not as though there is a particular benefit to early booking these days. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 32813305)
No need to base anything on anything.
If one purchases B6 or UA today, it may turn out that the other carrier would have been better for any number of reasons sometime next year. Thus, wait until close in and then book. If for some reason the world opens up again, one can always reevaluate. Not as though there is a particular benefit to early booking these days. The only reason I would do so would be booking very far out due to finding some kind of excellent deal (in the premium fare deals forum for example). |
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