CommonPass Digital Health Pass -- United Airlines to Participate
Oct 7, 2020, 4:13 pm
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CommonPass Digital Health Pass -- United Airlines to Participate
The Commons Project Foundation and the World Economic Forum today announced international trials starting this week for CommonPass, a digital health pass for travellers to securely document their certified COVID-19 test status while keeping their health data private. United Airlines is one of the pilot airlines.
Press release here.
Press release here.
Oct 8, 2020, 8:14 am
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This is one of those things which is dependent on a "network effect" by individual sovereign nations (as well as local subdivisions), carriers and, of course, passengers themselves. If it becomes generally accepted, people will use it. But, to do that, infrastructure will have to be there.
The key is that, just as it has always been, it is 100% on each passenger to assure that they have, in hand, all required documentation for entry and that they have it in a form permitted or required.
The current situation is untenable and a return to "normal" means that a system such as this has to come to pass.
The key is that, just as it has always been, it is 100% on each passenger to assure that they have, in hand, all required documentation for entry and that they have it in a form permitted or required.
The current situation is untenable and a return to "normal" means that a system such as this has to come to pass.
Oct 8, 2020, 2:31 pm
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Sounds like a good idea for storage of data regarding vaccination data, but use with COVID test results is of limited use knowing how infectious the virus is, and how long it takes to getting a positive test after infection. Positive test obvious means no travel, but negative test isn't necessarily accurate had infection just occured. Not the golden pass peiople think it is.
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Oct 9, 2020, 9:46 am
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Sounds like a good idea for storage of data regarding vaccination data, but use with COVID test results is of limited use knowing how infectious the virus is, and how long it takes to getting a positive test after infection. Positive test obvious means no travel, but negative test isn't necessarily accurate had infection just occured. Not the golden pass peiople think it is.
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Oct 10, 2020, 3:08 pm
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How do I get this CommonPass app and whose COVID-19 test do I take? I already had to take a saliva based COVID-19 test in order to move forward with oral surgery earlier this year. I certainly don't mind taking the test again.
Oct 12, 2020, 3:17 pm
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Oct 12, 2020, 9:18 pm
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It looks like Cathay Pacific is the first airline to do trials according to this post I found. The project wants to expand from 4 destinations to 15 additional countries in the next few months. American Express and Collinson (parent company of Priority Pass airport lounge program) are backers as well as Rockefeller Foundation.
Clearly, the major point regarding standardization is a necessity for real travel to resume.
Does this have a good chance of saving the travel industry in the short term?
Clearly, the major point regarding standardization is a necessity for real travel to resume.
Does this have a good chance of saving the travel industry in the short term?
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Oct 12, 2020, 10:40 pm
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Maybe governments will change their minds when they see that it's possible to put your results into a QR code, but probably not as quickly as CommonPass thinks it will.
Oct 13, 2020, 3:37 am
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Sounds like a good idea for storage of data regarding vaccination data, but use with COVID test results is of limited use knowing how infectious the virus is, and how long it takes to getting a positive test after infection. Positive test obvious means no travel, but negative test isn't necessarily accurate had infection just occured. Not the golden pass peiople think it is.
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Oct 13, 2020, 10:21 am
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All true but this will come into its own in countries, and between countries, where infection rates are already low. In such a case, the chance of any individual having COVID is already very low. The chances of the test providing a false negative very low. The chance of an individual contracting COVID between test and flight is extremely low. Whilst you have to add those chances together, and multiply by the number of people on the plane, you still end up with a very low chance - low enough not to concern the arrival country and low enough for other travellers to feel comfortable taking the risk.