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EWR764 Jul 6, 2020 6:53 pm

September International Adds: LAX-SYD, ORD-HKG resume, ORD-TLV new service
 
Worthy of its own thread, IMO, is a new ORD-TLV service (no specifics) and resumption of ORD-HKG. Both reportedly cargo-driven, less-than-weekly flights.

I assume these are 787 flights. SFO-TLV is coming back this month, and EWR-TLV is going to 10x weekly this fall as well.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN247314

kevflyer Jul 6, 2020 7:16 pm

I saw that ORD-HKG will only be once per week. They already fly ORD-HKG cargo as UA2865 daily on a 77W so once a week they make it passenger too I guess.

MatthewLAX Jul 6, 2020 7:48 pm

OP, I wrote about it before Reuters and included schedules! ;)

Schedule:
  • OUTBOUND - Depart Chicago (ORD) 6:30PM - Arrive Tel Aviv (TLV) 1:45PM
  • INBOUND - Depart Tel Aviv (TLV) 12:50AM - Arrive Chicago (ORD) 5:30AM
Flight runs on Monday, Wednesday, Saturday. 787-9.

More info (link to my blog)

ORD-HKG outbound is Sunday, return is Tuesday. 777-300ER.

IWontRegretThis Jul 6, 2020 8:43 pm

Interesting on the ORD add.. hopefully it stays a few days a week once covid disapears, Polaris outboud + cathay return is the way to go.

EWR764 Jul 6, 2020 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 32513072)
OP, I wrote about it before Reuters and included schedules! ;)

Schedule:
  • OUTBOUND - Depart Chicago (ORD) 6:30PM - Arrive Tel Aviv (TLV) 1:45PM
  • INBOUND - Depart Tel Aviv (TLV) 12:50AM - Arrive Chicago (ORD) 5:30AM
Flight runs on Monday, Wednesday, Saturday. 787-9.

More info (link to my blog)

ORD-HKG outbound is Sunday, return is Tuesday. 777-300ER.

My apologies... I would have linked to your blog if I saw it sooner!

ORD-TLV was a poorly-kept secret pre-COVID, but I am genuinely floored to see it launch in this environment, especially with such a quick run up. Possibly the shortest time ever (for a UA long haul route) from announcement to launch. Granted, the circumstances are highly unusual, but it is still noteworthy. I am also looking forward to seeing United Cargo revenue figures for 2Q.

Good scoop.

ctownflyer Jul 6, 2020 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by EWR764 (Post 32513160)
My apologies... I would have linked to your blog if I saw it sooner!

ORD-TLV was a poorly-kept secret pre-COVID, but I am genuinely floored to see it launch in this environment, especially with such a quick run up. Possibly the shortest time ever (for a UA long haul route) from announcement to launch. Granted, the circumstances are highly unusual, but it is still noteworthy. I am also looking forward to seeing United Cargo revenue figures for 2Q.

Good scoop.

But it was first on my blog :o :p
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-tra...cago-tel-aviv/

Timing makes perfect sense and was likely accelerated due to COVID.
AA bailed on launching DFW-TLV this year, LY is being forced to downsize as a bailout condition and bailed on launching ORD-TLV this year, cargo rates to TLV are sky high and will climb as LY has suspended cargo now as well. And ORD-TLV has been talked about internally since the CO merger.

uastarflyer Jul 6, 2020 9:09 pm

Is ORD-HKG timed to connect with HKG-SIN?

EWR764 Jul 6, 2020 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by ctownflyer (Post 32513169)
But it was first on my blog :o :p
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-tra...cago-tel-aviv/

Timing makes perfect sense and was likely accelerated due to COVID.
AA bailed on launching DFW-TLV this year, LY is being forced to downsize as a bailout condition and bailed on launching ORD-TLV this year, cargo rates to TLV are sky high and will climb as LY has suspended cargo now as well. And ORD-TLV has been talked about internally since the CO merger.

On second thought, I suppose it wouldn't be right to play favorites with so many posters here also running quality blogs! ;)

kevflyer Jul 6, 2020 9:22 pm


Originally Posted by uastarflyer (Post 32513188)
Is ORD-HKG timed to connect with HKG-SIN?

Possibly since it arrives at 6:40pm and HKG-SIN departs at 8:55pm. But whether it is bookable or not is another question, since HKG requires your connection to be on the same itinerary. Right now I can't find ORD-HKG on GF.

artvandalay Jul 6, 2020 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by EWR764 (Post 32513193)
On second thought, I suppose it wouldn't be right to play favorites with so many posters here also running quality blogs! ;)

Regardless of the source, it's great to be getting some news about more instead of less.

ual744777sta Jul 6, 2020 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by kevflyer (Post 32513204)
Possibly since it arrives at 6:40pm and HKG-SIN departs at 8:55pm. But whether it is bookable or not is another question, since HKG requires your connection to be on the same itinerary. Right now I can't find ORD-HKG on GF.

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From HKIA website:
From 15 June 2020, passengers can use HKIA for transit/transfer on flights operated by different airlines under the same air ticket, provided that the passengers have checked through at the origin port with their boarding passes printed and baggage tagged-through to the final destination.

dkc192 Jul 6, 2020 10:35 pm


Originally Posted by kevflyer (Post 32513204)
Right now I can't find ORD-HKG on GF.

The announcement was just made today, so I'd wait a few days--possibly until this weekend--for the flights to be loaded for sale.

PsiFighter37 Jul 7, 2020 4:09 am

Looks like UA is trying to take advantage of LY’s desperate situation by grabbing market share. Smart move if things get back to normal soon-ish...

entropy Jul 7, 2020 6:08 am

Im sure for now the TLV service is heavily cargo-based. but good to see United is leading the way to TLV.

Hopefully when all this is done we can get a polaris lounge in TLV.

ctownflyer Jul 7, 2020 7:02 am


Originally Posted by entropy (Post 32513773)
Im sure for now the TLV service is heavily cargo-based. but good to see United is leading the way to TLV.

Hopefully when all this is done we can get a polaris lounge in TLV.

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I thought IAA won't allow airlines not named LY to have their own?

But with 27 weekly departures they can certainly use one.


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