lounge use at Toronto with UA J award tix flying ET?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Programs: AA Gold
Posts: 3,643
lounge use at Toronto with UA J award tix flying ET?
I have award tickets in J issued by UA to fly home from a vacation in Namibia. Routing is WDH-ADD-YYZ on ET in J, YYZ-MCI on AC in Econ since plane has not J cabin.
I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.
Thank you for the info.
I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.
Thank you for the info.
#2
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,108
Lounge access in *A is based upon the departing flight. You're departing YYZ in Y, and you don't have status; therefore, you do not have lounge access. Sorry.
Note that this question has nothing to do with UA. You'd get the same answer if you were using, e.g., Aeroplan miles or cash.
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Programs: AA Gold
Posts: 3,643
None, unless ET has a special arrangement with AC for an arrivals lounge. You could try asking on their board.
Lounge access in *A is based upon the departing flight. You're departing YYZ in Y, and you don't have status; therefore, you do not have lounge access. Sorry.
Note that this question has nothing to do with UA. You'd get the same answer if you were using, e.g., Aeroplan miles or cash.
Lounge access in *A is based upon the departing flight. You're departing YYZ in Y, and you don't have status; therefore, you do not have lounge access. Sorry.
Note that this question has nothing to do with UA. You'd get the same answer if you were using, e.g., Aeroplan miles or cash.
#4
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,156
On certain days, theres a 17:40 YYZ-ORD on UA with two different connection opportunities continuing to MCI. All are operated with two class equipment so if you can get booked into F there, youll have access to the Transborder MLL* in YYZ and I believe also to the UC in ORD. (Unfortunately, ORD PL is off limits as intl long haul is not on UA.)
Some ET seats in J are angle flat - not sure about your flight. If at all possible, I would try and angle for a rebooking onto UA equipment with true flat into ORD via AMS/BRU/CDG/FRA/LHR/MUC. If you can finagle that, then you gain access to the PL lounge in ORD because youre arriving on UA. The PL is world class. EWR/IAD gateways may offer additional opportunities.
*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.
Some ET seats in J are angle flat - not sure about your flight. If at all possible, I would try and angle for a rebooking onto UA equipment with true flat into ORD via AMS/BRU/CDG/FRA/LHR/MUC. If you can finagle that, then you gain access to the PL lounge in ORD because youre arriving on UA. The PL is world class. EWR/IAD gateways may offer additional opportunities.
*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.
Last edited by AirbusFan2B; Jun 28, 2020 at 2:10 pm
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Programs: AA Gold
Posts: 3,643
On certain days, theres a 17:40 YYZ-ORD on UA with two different connection opportunities continuing to MCI. All are operated with two class equipment so if you can get booked into F there, youll have access to the Transborder MLL* in YYZ and I believe also to the UC in ORD. (Unfortunately, ORD PL is off limits as intl long haul is not on UA.)
*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.
*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.
I have time to figure it out as these flights are not until May 2021.
#6
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.99MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,425
or Best Lounge at Toronto with Amex Card?
or Airport Lounges
and for more on *A rules
Lounge Access Policy - Star Alliance
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 28, 2020 at 2:59 pm Reason: *A rules
#8
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: Star Alliance G*, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium,
Posts: 3,572
MLLs are closed
I have award tickets in J issued by UA to fly home from a vacation in Namibia. Routing is WDH-ADD-YYZ on ET in J, YYZ-MCI on AC in Econ since plane has not J cabin.
I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.
Thank you for the info.
I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.
Thank you for the info.
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...f-lounges.html
#10
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,840
6.5 hours is plenty of time to visit downtown using the UP Express train, if that interests you. The Plaza Premium lounge accepts Priority Pass and Amex Plat, or you can buy yourself in for ~$50. There's also a full gym in T1 arrivals (one of my favorite features of YYZ) that's usually pretty empty if you want to make some "productive" use of your time.
#11
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,263
No lounge access if AC is in Y like others said.
What will likely happen is AC will reschedule or cancel the MCI flight, and United will have to open up award space on their own flights, and you ll luck out.
I cant think of a worse way to end a long trip than have to fly AC - and in Y - and on a CR2....
Ethiopian's widebodies are all flat beds now, and I would certainly fly them over United metal, especially since that would add another stop
What will likely happen is AC will reschedule or cancel the MCI flight, and United will have to open up award space on their own flights, and you ll luck out.
I cant think of a worse way to end a long trip than have to fly AC - and in Y - and on a CR2....
Ethiopian's widebodies are all flat beds now, and I would certainly fly them over United metal, especially since that would add another stop
#12
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: UA lifetime gold; Hilton Gold; Marriott/SPG Plat; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,954
#13
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,340
6.5 hours is plenty of time to visit downtown using the UP Express train, if that interests you. The Plaza Premium lounge accepts Priority Pass and Amex Plat, or you can buy yourself in for ~$50. There's also a full gym in T1 arrivals (one of my favorite features of YYZ) that's usually pretty empty if you want to make some "productive" use of your time.
not sure if same protocol followed at YYZ.
#14
Join Date: May 2001
Location: RNO, NV, USA.
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 5,031
#15
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,115
The recent experience I had flying J into and out of YUL was that I was picked up from my arriving flight and then dropped off at the trans border area. Once I was through I think the only lounge in the US departures is the AC lounge. I don’t know if having a 6hrs layover will allow him to chart his own course.
not sure if same protocol followed at YYZ.
not sure if same protocol followed at YYZ.
The 'transborder" (US section of YYZ) lounge situation is not great. There is a full AC Maple Leaf Lounge with a shower right after US customs, but I'm not sure whether you can buy access when flying on a UA award ticket. The food/snacks at the lounge are limited, the furniture is well worn, and the lounge can get very crowded in the mornings (well ... at least it used to, who knows what the demand for travel will be like next spring). Apart from the shower, there is not much to recommend. There's also a mini AC lounge at the F84+ gates, which is where your flight will likely depart, but it's even more bare bones. The other option is a Plaza Premium Lounge, which also takes Priority Pass. It is currently in a temporary location along the side of the main hallway and is extremely cramped with no showers, but they have food. They will sell you a pass for a few hours, but only if there is room, and in the past they have been very full at least until the morning bank of flights to the US have departed. Given the cramped quarters, it's not worth the money. I have no idea when they might move to somewhere less temporary, but don't assume that they will by next May.
With a 6-hour layover after a very long flight, I'd either head into the city to stretch and get some fresh air, or I'd try to get a day room at one of the nearby airport hotels.
Last edited by StuMcIlwain; Jun 29, 2020 at 5:51 am