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lounge use at Toronto with UA J award tix flying ET?

Old Jun 28, 20, 1:20 pm
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lounge use at Toronto with UA J award tix flying ET?

I have award tickets in J issued by UA to fly home from a vacation in Namibia. Routing is WDH-ADD-YYZ on ET in J, YYZ-MCI on AC in Econ since plane has not J cabin.

I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.

Thank you for the info.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by susiesan View Post
YYZ-MCI on AC in Econ since plane has not J cabin.

I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use?
None, unless ET has a special arrangement with AC for an arrivals lounge. You could try asking on their board.

Lounge access in *A is based upon the departing flight. You're departing YYZ in Y, and you don't have status; therefore, you do not have lounge access. Sorry.

Note that this question has nothing to do with UA. You'd get the same answer if you were using, e.g., Aeroplan miles or cash.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 1:53 pm
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None, unless ET has a special arrangement with AC for an arrivals lounge. You could try asking on their board.

Lounge access in *A is based upon the departing flight. You're departing YYZ in Y, and you don't have status; therefore, you do not have lounge access. Sorry.

Note that this question has nothing to do with UA. You'd get the same answer if you were using, e.g., Aeroplan miles or cash.
That sucks. What am I going to do for 6/12 hours transmitting Toronto? Can I buy day use of the AC longe? Maybe I will change my ticket to a different routing that has me laying over at Newark instead. I'm only departing YYZ in Y because the aircraft does not have a J cabin. The ticket is a J ticket. That doesn't seem fair.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 1:54 pm
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On certain days, thereís a 17:40 YYZ-ORD on UA with two different connection opportunities continuing to MCI. All are operated with two class equipment so if you can get booked into F there, youíll have access to the Transborder MLL* in YYZ and I believe also to the UC in ORD. (Unfortunately, ORD PL is off limits as intl long haul is not on UA.)

Some ET seats in J are angle flat - not sure about your flight. If at all possible, I would try and angle for a rebooking onto UA equipment with true flat into ORD via AMS/BRU/CDG/FRA/LHR/MUC. If you can finagle that, then you gain access to the PL lounge in ORD because youíre arriving on UA. The PL is world class. EWR/IAD gateways may offer additional opportunities.

*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.

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Old Jun 28, 20, 2:17 pm
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On certain days, thereís a 17:40 YYZ-ORD on UA with two different connection opportunities continuing to MCI. All are operated with two class equipment so if you can get booked into F there, youíll have access to the Transborder MLL* in YYZ and I believe also to the UC in ORD. (Unfortunately, ORD PL is off limits as intl long haul is not on UA.)

*The Transborder MLL is not exceptional but of course beats mingling with all the tourists on the concourse.
The ET flight gets in to Toronto at 8:10am. I definitely don't want to spend all day at the end of a 14 day vacation in an airport. ET does have a flight ADD-ORD but there is no award availability on my required date. I would have to go WDH-ADD-BRU on ET J with 4h45min layover in Brussels, BRU-EWR on UA inJ, then EWR-MCI inY.Plus I would give up the J seat on WDH-ADD flight which is 7 hours as only Y seats are available now.

I have time to figure it out as these flights are not until May 2021.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 2:53 pm
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That sucks. What am I going to do for 6/12 hours transmitting Toronto? Can I buy day use of the AC longe? .....
Try https://www.loungebuddy.com/YYZ assuming they are open by your travel dates
or Best Lounge at Toronto with Amex Card?
or Airport Lounges

and for more on *A rules
Lounge Access Policy - Star Alliance

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MLLs are closed

Originally Posted by susiesan View Post
I have award tickets in J issued by UA to fly home from a vacation in Namibia. Routing is WDH-ADD-YYZ on ET in J, YYZ-MCI on AC in Econ since plane has not J cabin.

I have a 6 1/2 hour layover in Toronto. Which lounge will I be able to use? Is it the Maple Leaf Lounge? I do not have stats with UA but am flying business class.

Thank you for the info.
All of the MLLs are closed due to covid :

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...f-lounges.html
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Old Jun 28, 20, 4:13 pm
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The AC YYZ-MCI flight will be a CRJ-200. You don't want to ride on one of these for 2.5 hours anytime, and especially as the last leg on a long flight from Africa in J. Lounge or no lounge, I would try to find another routing.
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6.5 hours is plenty of time to visit downtown using the UP Express train, if that interests you. The Plaza Premium lounge accepts Priority Pass and Amex Plat, or you can buy yourself in for ~$50. There's also a full gym in T1 arrivals (one of my favorite features of YYZ) that's usually pretty empty if you want to make some "productive" use of your time.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 5:58 pm
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No lounge access if AC is in Y like others said.

What will likely happen is AC will reschedule or cancel the MCI flight, and United will have to open up award space on their own flights, and you ll luck out.

I cant think of a worse way to end a long trip than have to fly AC - and in Y - and on a CR2....

Ethiopian's widebodies are all flat beds now, and I would certainly fly them over United metal, especially since that would add another stop
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Old Jun 28, 20, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Antonio8069 View Post
All of the MLLs are closed due to covid :

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...f-lounges.html
OP trip is May 2021. I sure hope lounges are open by then.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 8:38 pm
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6.5 hours is plenty of time to visit downtown using the UP Express train, if that interests you. The Plaza Premium lounge accepts Priority Pass and Amex Plat, or you can buy yourself in for ~$50. There's also a full gym in T1 arrivals (one of my favorite features of YYZ) that's usually pretty empty if you want to make some "productive" use of your time.
The recent experience I had flying J into and out of YUL was that I was picked up from my arriving flight and then dropped off at the trans border area. Once I was through I think the only lounge in the US departures is the AC lounge. I donít know if having a 6hrs layover will allow him to chart his own course.

not sure if same protocol followed at YYZ.
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Old Jun 28, 20, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by susiesan View Post
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I have time to figure it out as these flights are not until May 2021.
There may well be additional flights available next year, giving your other award flight connecting options.
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Old Jun 29, 20, 5:20 am
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The recent experience I had flying J into and out of YUL was that I was picked up from my arriving flight and then dropped off at the trans border area. Once I was through I think the only lounge in the US departures is the AC lounge. I don’t know if having a 6hrs layover will allow him to chart his own course.

not sure if same protocol followed at YYZ.
YYZ T1 is now setup so you can walk directly from an international arrival gate to security and US customs and then US departure gates. There's no need to enter Canada unless you want to, which you might if you have a 6-hour layover.

The 'transborder" (US section of YYZ) lounge situation is not great. There is a full AC Maple Leaf Lounge with a shower right after US customs, but I'm not sure whether you can buy access when flying on a UA award ticket. The food/snacks at the lounge are limited, the furniture is well worn, and the lounge can get very crowded in the mornings (well ... at least it used to, who knows what the demand for travel will be like next spring). Apart from the shower, there is not much to recommend. There's also a mini AC lounge at the F84+ gates, which is where your flight will likely depart, but it's even more bare bones. The other option is a Plaza Premium Lounge, which also takes Priority Pass. It is currently in a temporary location along the side of the main hallway and is extremely cramped with no showers, but they have food. They will sell you a pass for a few hours, but only if there is room, and in the past they have been very full at least until the morning bank of flights to the US have departed. Given the cramped quarters, it's not worth the money. I have no idea when they might move to somewhere less temporary, but don't assume that they will by next May.

With a 6-hour layover after a very long flight, I'd either head into the city to stretch and get some fresh air, or I'd try to get a day room at one of the nearby airport hotels.
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