May 24, 2020, 2:27 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
For discussion of Hawaiian COVID-19 quarantine and other local issues, not UA specific, please use
FT's Hawaii forum
Gov. David Ige calls for 30-day suspension of visitors to Hawaii
COVID-19 - 14-Day Mandatory Quarantine for All HI Arrivals & Neighbor Island Travel
When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
FT's Hawaii forum
Gov. David Ige calls for 30-day suspension of visitors to Hawaii
COVID-19 - 14-Day Mandatory Quarantine for All HI Arrivals & Neighbor Island Travel
When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
Impacts of UA's reduced schedule on Hawaiian travelers (CARES exemption granted)
Jun 6, 2020, 10:48 pm
#181
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,447
I just don't agree with this. I check the UAL schedule to Maui every day. It changes every day. Nonstop on/ nonstops off. Flights to OGG for SFO/ no flights to OGG. It changes daily. It is completely unreliable. And Gov Ige already said he is extending the quarantine past June 30: so those flights are, as you said, "at risk". If by "at risk" you mean they just won't go. United is hurting its credibility with this published Hawaii schedule. They should publish a few flights that are going to go, and quit posting flights that are just hopeful.
Jun 7, 2020, 1:16 am
#182
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Colorado
Programs: UA Gold (.85 MM), HH Diamond, SPG Platinum (LT Gold), Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 5,656
Jun 7, 2020, 1:40 am
#183
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
There are OGG/KOA LAX nonstops in a 739 that do pop up from time to time. A few times I've secured reward reservations on them just to see what happens but UA cancels them with no reroute options.
Jun 7, 2020, 8:31 am
#184
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: Mileage Plus Global Services 2MM
Posts: 1,200
I've experienced the same thing. Once UA was allowed to discontinue all flights except the 1x per day SFO-HNL-SFO, the schedule has bounced around but the reality has not changed. Flights appear on the schedule and you book them. 24-72 hours later they disappear and you get funneled through HNL on the 1 flight that runs. Frankly, I do not see this changing before October 1 or whenever the Governor lifts the 14 day quarantine policy. He is EXTREMELY cautious and protective of the island population and is willing to suffer 40%+ unemployment vs. having an outbreak. With a few cases hitting the last several days, I do not see the quarantine bring lifted any time soon. As long is there is a quarantine in place, UA will not alter it's 1X per day approach via HNL, IMHO.
Jun 13, 2020, 2:07 pm
#187
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
HNL-LAX has been showing on the schedule as 1x daily on a 788 in the month of July. AA was doing this in April and May then down-gauged to an A321 so not sure if UA picked up a cargo contract but the 788 is definitely an improvement over no direct or one stop via SFO.
Jun 13, 2020, 3:18 pm
#188
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 15,020
...HNL-LAX has been showing on the schedule as 1x daily on a 788 in the month of July. AA was doing this in April and May then down-gauged to an A321 so not sure if UA picked up a cargo contract but the 788 is definitely an improvement over no direct or one stop via SFO.
Jun 14, 2020, 2:28 pm
#189
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Colorado
Programs: UA Gold (.85 MM), HH Diamond, SPG Platinum (LT Gold), Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 5,656
Was at OGG last night around 6:45 PM. My wife and kids were flying Delta back to DEN via LAX and SLC. I walked down to the UA check in area and it’s hard to digest and see it completely empty. Didn’t think to take a picture in the moment.
I don’t blame UA for not servicing anything other than HNL, as OGG was so empty it was scary. Nevertheless, I look forward to UA resuming service someday.
I don’t blame UA for not servicing anything other than HNL, as OGG was so empty it was scary. Nevertheless, I look forward to UA resuming service someday.
Jun 19, 2020, 8:47 pm
#190
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
United hasn't pulled their flights to the outer islands that start on July 1. Are they really going to fly them or just cancel them at the last minute like they were doing in March?
Jun 19, 2020, 10:39 pm
#191
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: Mileage Plus Global Services 2MM
Posts: 1,200
As long as the governor is imposing a 14 day quarantine, UA isn't going to run more than the 1 HNL-SFO flight. The quarantine is good until at least 31 July so I expect those July flights will go away soon.
Jun 20, 2020, 5:01 pm
#193
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: YVR
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 975
Jun 20, 2020, 5:47 pm
#194
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,447
We will find out soon though
Jun 23, 2020, 9:51 pm
#195
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 15,020
Just landed at Maui OGG about 4pm from HNL. Taxied right past Southwest, Delta, and American Airlines aircraft. No UA aircraft for months. United used to be the biggest carrier between the mainland and the Hawaiian Islands. I really do think the United Hawaii will see eventually will never get back to the lift it had pre-pandemic. United might take this opportunity to downsize their operations here, maybe to the outer islands more on par with AA's level of lift. Last winter, it seemed to me UA's coach sections were carrying fewer customers than before and maybe it's because Southwest might make be making a splash with luggage-toting tourists.