Should I cancel my UA trip to Italy July 2020? Now, trying to get a refund.
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My wife and I have NAP booked for May and are sitting tight for now. Italy is level 3 with CDC so I am a bit annoyed that current waivers are only for the North and not into May but there is plenty of time still yet for things to change markedly.
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Also, most of the tag on travel insurance airlines offer (in partnership with insurance carriers) do not cover for extradionary situations such as what's happening now.
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Would hate to be saddled with UA travel credit if this trip doesn't happen. Don't use UA domestically (inconvenient, expensive), and wouldn't have for this international trip except for the $1500pp price difference.
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Only "cancel for any reason" insurance covers epidemics and pandemics, regardless of whether it was purchased from the airline or not. Finding that out the hard way, but not leaving until October, and don't have to commit the final tour payment until July.
Would hate to be saddled with UA travel credit if this trip doesn't happen. Don't use UA domestically (inconvenient, expensive), and wouldn't have for this international trip except for the $1500pp price difference.
Would hate to be saddled with UA travel credit if this trip doesn't happen. Don't use UA domestically (inconvenient, expensive), and wouldn't have for this international trip except for the $1500pp price difference.
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Its a game of chicken with UA as I get closer to the date to see if they change the waivers, particularly after Italy locked down much of the Northern half of the country over the weekend.....
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I'm in a similar boat and also annoyed with the Northern Italy waiver only. I have a ticket for a business trip to Rome/Florence leaving on 3/22 that was booked in Feb. We, like many other companies, have temporarily shut down all travel and China/S.Korea/Italy were immediate no go's a couple of weeks ago. At this point, I still can't cancel the ticket without a penalty which seems fairly crazy since Italy is obviously an issue at the moment.
Its a game of chicken with UA as I get closer to the date to see if they change the waivers, particularly after Italy locked down much of the Northern half of the country over the weekend.....
Its a game of chicken with UA as I get closer to the date to see if they change the waivers, particularly after Italy locked down much of the Northern half of the country over the weekend.....
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I'm in a similar boat and also annoyed with the Northern Italy waiver only. I have a ticket for a business trip to Rome/Florence leaving on 3/22 that was booked in Feb. We, like many other companies, have temporarily shut down all travel and China/S.Korea/Italy were immediate no go's a couple of weeks ago. At this point, I still can't cancel the ticket without a penalty which seems fairly crazy since Italy is obviously an issue at the moment.
Its a game of chicken with UA as I get closer to the date to see if they change the waivers, particularly after Italy locked down much of the Northern half of the country over the weekend.....
Its a game of chicken with UA as I get closer to the date to see if they change the waivers, particularly after Italy locked down much of the Northern half of the country over the weekend.....
A business colleague of mine was in Italy (Florence) at the end of last week. He said he's never had such a lovely time. The Uffizi was completely empty, his favourite restaurant uncrowded, no annoying tourists clogging up everything...
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In many cases this is no longer about personal tolerance for risk.
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This is just what we were contemplating as well, substituting VCE for FLR—but then my workplace instituted a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone who has been to Italy. And my spouse, who is a minister, learned that the first COVID-19 case in DC was a colleague, the rector of a large Episcopal church there. The entire parish has now been forced to quarantine by the DC Department of Health.
In many cases this is no longer about personal tolerance for risk.
In many cases this is no longer about personal tolerance for risk.
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This is just what we were contemplating as well, substituting VCE for FLR—but then my workplace instituted a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone who has been to Italy. And my spouse, who is a minister, learned that the first COVID-19 case in DC was a colleague, the rector of a large Episcopal church there. The entire parish has now been forced to quarantine by the DC Department of Health.
In many cases this is no longer about personal tolerance for risk.
In many cases this is no longer about personal tolerance for risk.
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I canceled my work trip to FCO today (oops, still have to e-mail the hotel!) after United finally extended the waiver to all of Italy.
On the one hand, I'm itching to get back, and being there while things are relatively quiet sounds nice. And my TATL upgrades cleared much earlier than normal!
On the other hand, I don't think I'd be able to visit my favorite spot for dinner/wine in the evenings now. And then there would be the hassle of going back and forth and dealing with the stigma of having traveled to a "coronavirus hotbed". So I think I've gotten past the anger and denial stages of this paradigm shift and am grudgingly moving on towards 'acceptance'.
On the one hand, I'm itching to get back, and being there while things are relatively quiet sounds nice. And my TATL upgrades cleared much earlier than normal!
On the other hand, I don't think I'd be able to visit my favorite spot for dinner/wine in the evenings now. And then there would be the hassle of going back and forth and dealing with the stigma of having traveled to a "coronavirus hotbed". So I think I've gotten past the anger and denial stages of this paradigm shift and am grudgingly moving on towards 'acceptance'.
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