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FlyingXplorer Aug 17, 13 2:57 pm

How to get residual/"future flight credit" from non-refundable flight {Archive}
 
I have a non-refundable IAH-LGA (Houston - New York City) roundtrip booked for next weekend. Unfortunately, I no longer need to go to New York.
Is there any residual value I could get out of it?

I have 1K status. Booking classes are L and T.

sammyindc Aug 17, 13 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingExplorer (Post 21289997)
I have a non-refundable IAH-LGA (Houston - New York City) roundtrip booked for next weekend. Unfortunately, I no longer need to go to New York.
Is there any residual value I could get out of it?

I have 1K status. Booking classes are L and T.

You can cancel the ticket and pay the change fee to change it at a later date but if the ticket cost is less than the change fee it doesn't make sense to do that.

Baze Aug 17, 13 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingExplorer (Post 21289997)
I have a non-refundable IAH-LGA (Houston - New York City) roundtrip booked for next weekend. Unfortunately, I no longer need to go to New York.
Is there any residual value I could get out of it?

I have 1K status. Booking classes are L and T.

Cancel before the first flight departs. You get the value you paid minus the change fee.

aacharya Aug 17, 13 3:00 pm

Or SDC it a few times - hope for a schedule change.

WineCountryUA Aug 17, 13 3:03 pm

Hope for a weather cause free cancellation waiver. (You can if you want to spend the time and daily pushing the flight out 1 day via SDC until such an event happens, but may take many weeks -- gets messy if the return needs to be pushed also).

Otherwise, cancel prior to departure and you will have available a credit in traveler's name a future credit. Depending on when purchased it will costs $150 to $200 in new money to get access to the credit.

When, if ready, to use the credit, call and book new itin. This is the point the change fee is required. If there is an residual, you will receive a vouchure good for future flight credit, no fee, can be used by anyone.

raehl311 Aug 17, 13 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by Baze (Post 21290008)
Cancel before the first flight departs. You get the value you paid minus the change fee.

This is not correct. You must pay the change fee, and then you will have a credit for the value you originally paid, usable within one year for the same traveler.

Baze Aug 17, 13 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 21290058)
This is not correct. You must pay the change fee, and then you will have a credit for the value you originally paid, usable within one year for the same traveler.

Over all the same amount. The amount you paid minus a change fee. The value you can use is the same out of your pocket no matter how you word it :rolleyes:

uastarflyer Aug 17, 13 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 21290058)
Quote:





Originally Posted by Baze


Cancel before the first flight departs. You get the value you paid minus the change fee.




This is not correct. You must pay the change fee, and then you will have a credit for the value you originally paid, usable within one year for the same traveler.

Not my experience. I simply canceled. No cash required. Big difference - no cash required to cancel a trip.

If canceling and simultaneous rebooking of course they grab the change fee plus fare difference right away.

Or else they give an allowance of fare paid - $200 later when you decide to use the canceled itinerary.

JPG3392 Aug 17, 13 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by Baze (Post 21290066)
Over all the same amount. The amount you paid minus a change fee. The value you can use is the same out of your pocket no matter how you word it :rolleyes:

Yes, it's the same amount, but there are two differences. 1) You pay the change fee in cash upfront, and the entire value you can use later is then in the form of a voucher valid only on a specific airline. 2) If you're unable to use the value for a later ticket, you lose the change fee as well as whatever you paid for the original ticket.

Baze Aug 17, 13 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by JPG3392 (Post 21290104)
Yes, it's the same amount, but there are two differences. 1) You pay the change fee in cash upfront, and the entire value you can use later is then in the form of a voucher valid only on a specific airline. 2) If you're unable to use the value for a later ticket, you lose the change fee as well as whatever you paid for the original ticket.

Huh??? Not in my experience. Cancel a ticket. Get a credit on file with UA for the amount of that ticket. When you book a new ticket they apply that amount minus the change fee. Done it dozens of times. Don't get any vouchers. Never had to pay the change fee in cash up front, never! Oops, used that word, never. I have not at any time had to pay the change fee in cash up front.

Edit to add, just did it this past Tuesday.

uastarflyer Aug 17, 13 3:31 pm

How to get residual value from non-refundable flight
 
Baze is correct. Was a cash grab at point of cancel a PMCO policy? Certainly not PMUA policy and certainly not current UA policy.

SFOTurtle Aug 17, 13 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by uastarflyer (Post 21290131)
Baze is correct. Was a cash grab at point of cancel a PMCO policy? Certainly not PMUA policy and certainly not current UA policy.

I think the only time I've gotten any credits that are close to this scenario was when I cancelled, made a new flight booking from the cancelled itinerary (including paying the change fee), and then my new booked flight was less than I paid for the original, and an electronic credit was then issued to me. Did this several times in the past year.

uastarflyer Aug 17, 13 3:44 pm

How to get residual value from non-refundable flight
 
Just to clarify Turtle:

Old itinerary $500
New itin $250
You were issued e-voucher for $50? ($500 original fare paid - $200 change fee - $ $250 new itin)

Thanks

PV_Premier Aug 17, 13 3:50 pm

the change fee must be paid in new money at the time of reusing the credit.

if you have a $300 round trip fare booked, and cancel it, then reapply it to a new $300 round trip fare, you will be charged $150 at the time of rebooking the new itinerary. this new itinerar will have the same PNR locator as the old itinerary.

if you have the same $300 round trip fare booked, and cancel it, then reapply to a new $200 fare, you will still be charged $150 and will get back a $100 e-cert with an expiration date 12 months from the date of new itinerary issue.

if you have a $300 round trip fare booked, cancel it, and then reapply the funds to a $400 fare, you will have to pay $250 ($150 change fee and $100 fare difference) at the time of issuing the new ticket.

in all cases you have 12 months from the date of cancel to reuse the credit. if you dont reuse the full credit, the ecert will have a date of expiration that is 12 months from the date of using the partial credit:

$300 round trip canceled today, residual credit expires one year from today
reapply $150 of the $300 credit tomorrow, the remaining $150 is refunded on an ecert and that ecert expires a year from tomorrow. in this way you can prolong a cancelation credit for up to two years by booking a cheap one way throw away ticket (think MIA-GNV or similar) the day before your residual credit expires.

raehl311 Aug 17, 13 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by Baze (Post 21290123)
Huh??? Not in my experience. Cancel a ticket. Get a credit on file with UA for the amount of that ticket.

A sort-of credit that you can't use for anything.


When you book a new ticket they apply that amount minus the change fee.
This is not correct.

To use the credit, you have to pay the change fee. Once the change fee is paid, you will have a credit to use worth the original ticket price.


This works out the same if the cost of the new ticket exceeds the cost of the old ticket. But if the new ticket is less than the old ticket, you're going to have to pay the $150 and will then get another certificate for the difference in value between the new and old tickets.


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