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Old Apr 18, 2020, 1:31 pm
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Updated posting July 2020 - Ice, tea and coffee returns and some small food enhancements.
Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we’re temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We’re also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.

Beverage changes for all flights
We will be offering sealed beverages on all flights. If you’re on a flight under 1 hour, you’ll receive beverages on request. We’ll also offer coffee and tea on domestic flights departing before 9:45 a.m. and on all international and premium transcontinental flights. Non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary, and alcoholic beverages are complimentary in premium cabins. Wine and beer are also complimentary in United Economy® on long-haul international flights.

Food changes for domestic flights
We won't have snacks available in United Economy for flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes or in United First® for flights under 1 hour. As always, you're welcome to bring snacks on board. For flights between 1 hour and 2 hours and 20 minutes in United First, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks.

For flights 2 hours and 20 minutes or longer, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks in United Economy. In the premium cabin, you'll be offered a snack box.

Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you're flying in United Economy or Economy Plus®, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their meal with their entrée choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.

Food changes for international flights
In United Economy®, you’ll receive an entrée, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.

In United Premium Plus® and United Polaris® business class, your entrée, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. You’ll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival on select flights.
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Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we’re temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We’re also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.

Beverage changes for all flights
We will only offer sealed beverages and we will no longer offer ice, coffee and tea service, and poured alcohol. Instead of pouring you water from a large bottle, we’ll provide sealed individual water bottles. In premium cabins, we will offer beer and individual wines. Flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes will only have beverages on request.

Food changes for domestic flights
For flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes, we will not offer a snack service in any cabin. As always, you’re welcome to bring snacks on board.

For flights over 2 hours and 20 minutes, you will receive your choice of pretzels, a stroopwafel or cookies in United Economy®. In the premium cabin, you’ll be offered a snackbox.

Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you’re flying in United Economy or Economy Plus®, you’ll be offered a snack choice. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their packaged meal with their entrée choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.

Food changes for international flights
In United Economy®, you’ll receive an entrée, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.

In United Premium Plus® and United Polaris® business class, your entrée, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. You’ll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival.


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Old Aug 7, 2020, 12:26 pm
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Meh, just be discreet.
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Any current reports about what is offered beverage wise in Y? Most reports are in F. I might not get upgraded this coming week, and wondering about Y service beverages.
Was stuck in Y DEN-PHX and back last week. Both afternoon/evening flights. No alcohol is available for purchase. A drink service is offered in the air. I asked for, and received coffee on the evening DEN-PHX flight. I asked for coffee, and was told "no hot drinks after the morning" on the afternoon PHX-DEN flight, because clearly the Coronavirus only lives in hot drinks in the afternoons, not in the mornings.
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Originally Posted by UAPremierGuy
Was stuck in Y DEN-PHX and back last week. Both afternoon/evening flights. No alcohol is available for purchase. A drink service is offered in the air. I asked for, and received coffee on the evening DEN-PHX flight. I asked for coffee, and was told "no hot drinks after the morning" on the afternoon PHX-DEN flight, because clearly the Coronavirus only lives in hot drinks in the afternoons, not in the mornings.
I’m so confused about that. Either it’s safe to serve coffee, or it’s not.

That said, my experience is mixed outside of the official line, which is coffee on flights departing at 9:45am or earlier only. As expected, was told no coffee on a noon CVG-ORD in F. But did receive a cup on a ~2:00pm departure ORD-SFO. Given current financials, I could buy they don’t want to bother on short flights that aren’t at peak coffee drinking times, or on UAX flights, or flights under, say, 90 minutes. But the only public condition seems to be based on which side of the day were on of 9:45. Anecdotally, not really true, so can’t they just say what guidelines they are using, and stick to it?
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Old Aug 7, 2020, 6:34 pm
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I’m so confused about that. Either it’s safe to serve coffee, or it’s not.
It's all about mitigating, not eliminating risk. If they serve coffee on 1/3 their flights, then they've reduced by 2/3 the chance of spreading the disease by serving coffee.

If United can get 80% of the economic goodie of offering hot drinks (most people drink coffee in the morning, are unlikely to book away from evening flights due to no hot drinks) and eliminate 66% of the risk of spreading covid through that channel (even if the risk is small to begin with), maybe that's where they've settled.

Similarly, wearing your seat belt 95% of the time is better than wearing it 0% of the time, but someone on flyertalk will surely say "the airline policy of keeping your belt buckled while seated is stupid because obviously turbulence is less likely when you are using the loo!".
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Old Aug 7, 2020, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by UAPremierGuy
Was stuck in Y DEN-PHX and back last week. Both afternoon/evening flights. No alcohol is available for purchase. A drink service is offered in the air. I asked for, and received coffee on the evening DEN-PHX flight. I asked for coffee, and was told "no hot drinks after the morning" on the afternoon PHX-DEN flight, because clearly the Coronavirus only lives in hot drinks in the afternoons, not in the mornings.
Is there full beverage service, with ice, except alcohol? That is what I'm wondering.

Did they use a beverage cart, of if the load is light, come through asking for orders?
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Old Aug 7, 2020, 8:25 pm
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Is there full beverage service, with ice, except alcohol? That is what I'm wondering.

Did they use a beverage cart, of if the load is light, come through asking for orders?
Full beverage service with cart and ice on both mainline and express carriers. The cart did seem to have limited options compared to ‘normal’ times, but I didn’t hear anybody not receive what they asked for.

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Old Aug 7, 2020, 11:30 pm
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With UA and most airlines craving for cash, one would expect that sales of alcoholic beverages onboard would be a much-needed revenue source .... not sure what's missing ??
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
With UA and most airlines craving for cash, one would expect that sales of alcoholic beverages onboard would be a much-needed revenue source .... not sure what's missing ??
The issue probably is the handing of credit cards back and forth between passengers and flight attendants. Lots of contact and potential avenue for spread.
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Old Aug 8, 2020, 12:19 am
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The issue probably is the handing of credit cards back and forth between passengers and flight attendants. Lots of contact and potential avenue for spread.
Which could easily be mitigated by moving inflight purchases to the UA app, where you would complete your purchase of a specific item or category of item, then present a barcode on your phone to be scanned by the FA - true "contact-less" payments. Of course this assumes that UA's IT department knows what it's doing, which history tells us, is not likely.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Which could easily be mitigated by moving inflight purchases to the UA app, where you would complete your purchase of a specific item or category of item, then present a barcode on your phone to be scanned by the FA - true "contact-less" payments. Of course this assumes that UA's IT department knows what it's doing, which history tells us, is not likely.
’easily’ is a relative term. It would be relatively easy to allow the app to take payment info. I’m not even in the payment/logistics industry, but can already see lots of hurdles. Can they verify the payment in real-time without a WiFi connection to the ground for everyone? Can the payment info. be handled securely in the air? Can they develop a system to inventory everything available on that flight, and then provide the real-time updates based on previous purchases so that the app doesn’t allow me to buy an item that’s already sold out? This is a big effort, and takes a lot of coordination. Is it theoretically possible? Probably. Is it ‘easy’? Probably not. That also takes a lot of $ to implement. So as a priority, I’m not sure something like this is going to make the cut.

Probably more feasable, to develop a system for pre-purchase (AC had this, or at least used to), but again, there’s a lot of logistics involved to make sure they can supply what’s been ore-ordered, and appears UA has barely even tried to handle pre-selected F meals, and that’s without a payment involved.
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Old Aug 8, 2020, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Which could easily be mitigated by moving inflight purchases to the UA app, where you would complete your purchase of a specific item or category of item, then present a barcode on your phone to be scanned by the FA - true "contact-less" payments. Of course this assumes that UA's IT department knows what it's doing, which history tells us, is not likely.
Or using a simple handheld card reader whereby the customer inserts, it's processed, and the customer removes without ever touching the machine. Taco Bell managed to figure out how to do this months ago.
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Old Aug 8, 2020, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by threeoh
It's all about mitigating, not eliminating risk. If they serve coffee on 1/3 their flights, then they've reduced by 2/3 the chance of spreading the disease by serving coffee.

If United can get 80% of the economic goodie of offering hot drinks (most people drink coffee in the morning, are unlikely to book away from evening flights due to no hot drinks) and eliminate 66% of the risk of spreading covid through that channel (even if the risk is small to begin with), maybe that's where they've settled.

Similarly, wearing your seat belt 95% of the time is better than wearing it 0% of the time, but someone on flyertalk will surely say "the airline policy of keeping your belt buckled while seated is stupid because obviously turbulence is less likely when you are using the loo!".
Indeed. "Either it's safe or it isn't" isn't how risk management works at all in any context, and enormous corporations like United are well aware of that.
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Old Aug 8, 2020, 3:11 pm
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Or using a simple handheld card reader whereby the customer inserts, it's processed, and the customer removes without ever touching the machine. Taco Bell managed to figure out how to do this months ago.
Air Canada has been selling pre-paid meals and drinks online for years - it's really not that difficult to set up aside from the cost involved, but yes, it's also really not that difficult to point the card reader at the passenger and ask them to insert, then remove their card rather than the FA touching it - just about every fast food drive through out here in Southern California has been doing that for a few months.

Another option is to pre-pay for drinks and food online, print out the vouchers that have an extended expiry date in case of flight issues, then exchange the printed voucher for an inflight meal - or program the check-in kiosks to print the vouchers - or attach the meal/drink prepaid order to the PNR so it it's available to the crew to departure.

In short, there are probably a dozen different options to simplify meal and beverage sales - but United always chooses the more simple "no we're not doing that" answer.
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Old Aug 8, 2020, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
In short, there are probably a dozen different options to simplify meal and beverage sales - but United always chooses the more simple "no we're not doing that" answer.
And they wonder why folks are BYOB and they're not making much money. Who'd thunk?

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Originally Posted by cmd320
Or using a simple handheld card reader whereby the customer inserts, it's processed, and the customer removes without ever touching the machine. Taco Bell managed to figure out how to do this months ago.
In a 3-3 configured plane the flight attendant would have to hover over the aisle seat to process payment for the window seat passenger. Not good in a Covid world. And everybody sticking their own credit card into the same credit card reading machine is also a lot of contact.

As for prepaying in advance - it can be done but do people really know in advance whether they will want alcohol at a later time in the day? The marketing would look odd online - a menu of alcoholic beverages with encouragement to prepay. And would they offer sales, i.e., 20% on two drinks? Messy.
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