May 12, 2020, 2:04 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
https://www.unitedcargo.com/
Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
cargo-only flights are listed
12 May 2020
Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
cargo-only flights are listed
12 May 2020
UA cargo-only service for May listed by hub with return flights mostly deleted (cargo-only sections in 27XX/28XX flight number range):
EWR-BOM 2830 77W 3x
EWR-FRA 2798 77W/787 3x
EWR-SFO 2730 77W 1x
GUM-LAX 2797 77W/787 Daily (operating PVG-LAX-GUM)
GUM-PVG 2778 77W Daily
GUM-SFO 2849 77W 3x (operating TPE-GUM-SFO)
GUM-TPE 2847 77W 3x
HKG-SIN 2861 77W/787 3x
IAD-BRU 2792 787 3x
IAD-DUB 2816 787 3x
IAD-NRT 2863 787 Daily
IAD-SJU 2810 77W 1x
IAH-AMS 2786 77W 2x
IAH-FRA 2788 77W 3x
IAH-SCL 2790 787 2x
LAX-FRA 2796 77W 3x
LAX-GUM 2765 77W Daily (operating LAX-GUM-PVG)
LAX-HKG 2852 77W Daily
LAX-HKG 2774 77W Daily
LAX-LHR 2800 787 2x
LAX-SYD 2812 787 4x
NRT-CTU 2801 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2845 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2822 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2836 787 4x
NRT-PVG 2808 787 Daily
NRT-PVG 2850 787 Daily
ORD-AMS 2810 787 2x
ORD-BRU 2841 787 Daily
ORD-FRA 2776 77W 3x
ORD-HKG 2865 77W Daily
ORD-LHR 2806 787 2x
ORD-NRT 2820 787 Daily
ORD-NRT 2821 787 Daily
ORD-SFO 2853 77W 1x
ORD-ZRH 2782 787 3x
SFO-AMS 2768 77W 3x
SFO-FRA 2780 77W 2x
SFO-GUM 2846 77W 3x
SFO-HKG 2861 77W/787 3x
SFO-ICN 2832 787 3x
SFO-MEL 2854 1x
SFO-NRT 2826 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2834 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2835 787 4x
SFO-SYD 2812 787 3x
All 777 flights are 77W, 787s are EQV, all series, but mostly 789.
EWR-BOM 2830 77W 3x
EWR-FRA 2798 77W/787 3x
EWR-SFO 2730 77W 1x
GUM-LAX 2797 77W/787 Daily (operating PVG-LAX-GUM)
GUM-PVG 2778 77W Daily
GUM-SFO 2849 77W 3x (operating TPE-GUM-SFO)
GUM-TPE 2847 77W 3x
HKG-SIN 2861 77W/787 3x
IAD-BRU 2792 787 3x
IAD-DUB 2816 787 3x
IAD-NRT 2863 787 Daily
IAD-SJU 2810 77W 1x
IAH-AMS 2786 77W 2x
IAH-FRA 2788 77W 3x
IAH-SCL 2790 787 2x
LAX-FRA 2796 77W 3x
LAX-GUM 2765 77W Daily (operating LAX-GUM-PVG)
LAX-HKG 2852 77W Daily
LAX-HKG 2774 77W Daily
LAX-LHR 2800 787 2x
LAX-SYD 2812 787 4x
NRT-CTU 2801 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2845 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2822 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2836 787 4x
NRT-PVG 2808 787 Daily
NRT-PVG 2850 787 Daily
ORD-AMS 2810 787 2x
ORD-BRU 2841 787 Daily
ORD-FRA 2776 77W 3x
ORD-HKG 2865 77W Daily
ORD-LHR 2806 787 2x
ORD-NRT 2820 787 Daily
ORD-NRT 2821 787 Daily
ORD-SFO 2853 77W 1x
ORD-ZRH 2782 787 3x
SFO-AMS 2768 77W 3x
SFO-FRA 2780 77W 2x
SFO-GUM 2846 77W 3x
SFO-HKG 2861 77W/787 3x
SFO-ICN 2832 787 3x
SFO-MEL 2854 1x
SFO-NRT 2826 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2834 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2835 787 4x
SFO-SYD 2812 787 3x
All 777 flights are 77W, 787s are EQV, all series, but mostly 789.
UA cargo-only flights during COVID-19 era
Mar 23, 2020, 1:19 am
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Mar 23, 2020, 6:14 am
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Five-fold increase in cargo rates with all those low cost passenger fares available? And I've got a three-bag 70lb allowance?
Hey, companies that ship cargo on UA! Want to buy me a ticket to transport 210 lbs of your cargo?
Hey, companies that ship cargo on UA! Want to buy me a ticket to transport 210 lbs of your cargo?
Mar 23, 2020, 6:27 pm
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Tons of information on UA’s cargo plans over at www.unitedcargo.com. This is a great site, I use it regularly to get changes in the flight schedule for UA. Lots of neat stuff on that site if you’re an av-geek.
Cheers
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Cheers
n198ua
Mar 23, 2020, 7:50 pm
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You are going to see a lot of freight extra sections on UA, mostly by USPS or freight forwarders. Its mainly 777s or 787s.
For example the 773 has 44 positions of cargo. Thats 44 AKE containers or 14 PMC pallets if I'm doing my math right... over 100,000 lbs of cargo with no passenger baggage to worry about.
For example the 773 has 44 positions of cargo. Thats 44 AKE containers or 14 PMC pallets if I'm doing my math right... over 100,000 lbs of cargo with no passenger baggage to worry about.
Mar 24, 2020, 3:00 pm
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You are going to see a lot of freight extra sections on UA, mostly by USPS or freight forwarders. Its mainly 777s or 787s.
For example the 773 has 44 positions of cargo. Thats 44 AKE containers or 14 PMC pallets if I'm doing my math right... over 100,000 lbs of cargo with no passenger baggage to worry about.
For example the 773 has 44 positions of cargo. Thats 44 AKE containers or 14 PMC pallets if I'm doing my math right... over 100,000 lbs of cargo with no passenger baggage to worry about.
Would that cover operational cost?
Mar 24, 2020, 10:52 pm
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However, I imagine domestic shippers are making adjustments to account for the possibility of not being able to send as air freight (or it being otherwise prohibitively expensive).
When shipping overseas, that luxury doesn't exist.
Mar 25, 2020, 8:35 am
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Gotta remember that the rates for cargo are high right now and that specialty products fetch many times the normal general cargo rates.
Mar 25, 2020, 6:08 pm
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There was an article in the Taiwanese newspaper on EVA and China Airlines doing cargo flights with their passenger 777-300ERs.
I posted here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32229117-post205.html
The math and description were kind of fuzzy in the report. It said that for SHA-TPE, the cargo rate has gone from NT$18/kg to NT$60/kg as factories in China restart and try to play catchup.
It said that CI and BR are basically letting freight forwarders charter their planes and the money they get is like having 90% passenger load factor.
CI has 18 - 1 leased out 747Fs and BR has 5 freighters. BR used to have a few 747-400 Combis but not anymore. I guess they are already more plugged into the cargo business than UA so it is easier for them to get more business.
I posted here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32229117-post205.html
The math and description were kind of fuzzy in the report. It said that for SHA-TPE, the cargo rate has gone from NT$18/kg to NT$60/kg as factories in China restart and try to play catchup.
It said that CI and BR are basically letting freight forwarders charter their planes and the money they get is like having 90% passenger load factor.
CI has 18 - 1 leased out 747Fs and BR has 5 freighters. BR used to have a few 747-400 Combis but not anymore. I guess they are already more plugged into the cargo business than UA so it is easier for them to get more business.
Mar 26, 2020, 4:28 am
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5 fold increase is just like getting news from Facebook memes. Looks like 20-30% in most trans-oceanic markets. https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...h-goes-global/
I just had to google it ‘cause a 500% increase would not have carriers parking their wide body aircraft, they’d be running em into the ground with fuel prices low and crew costs already covered
I just had to google it ‘cause a 500% increase would not have carriers parking their wide body aircraft, they’d be running em into the ground with fuel prices low and crew costs already covered
Mar 26, 2020, 11:33 am
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I thought the point to self-loading cargo was that we had to do this ourselves?
I can't picture an easily-configurable & reconfigurable transition from passenger to cargo when it involves removing passenger sections. In some cases it may not be necessary anyway; I'd think some cargo is of sufficient density that a cargo hold might come close to max capacity on its own. Maybe.
I can't picture an easily-configurable & reconfigurable transition from passenger to cargo when it involves removing passenger sections. In some cases it may not be necessary anyway; I'd think some cargo is of sufficient density that a cargo hold might come close to max capacity on its own. Maybe.
Mar 26, 2020, 2:29 pm
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I thought the point to self-loading cargo was that we had to do this ourselves?
I can't picture an easily-configurable & reconfigurable transition from passenger to cargo when it involves removing passenger sections. In some cases it may not be necessary anyway; I'd think some cargo is of sufficient density that a cargo hold might come close to max capacity on its own. Maybe.
I can't picture an easily-configurable & reconfigurable transition from passenger to cargo when it involves removing passenger sections. In some cases it may not be necessary anyway; I'd think some cargo is of sufficient density that a cargo hold might come close to max capacity on its own. Maybe.
Mar 26, 2020, 3:15 pm
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passenger airlines are using the main deck for cargo without removing seats. innovative stuff: https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...o-meet-demand/
Mar 26, 2020, 3:29 pm
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passenger airlines are using the main deck for cargo without removing seats. innovative stuff: https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...o-meet-demand/
Apr 1, 2020, 6:50 pm
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UA Flying LAX-HKG today and tomorrow
I assume it's cargo, but anyone know why UA is flying the 77W from LAX-HKG today and tomorrow? See it loaded in the schedule on flight aware + one flight en route. Nothing on UA.com