Do United executives know that nobody like the angled Polaris business class seat?
Feb 3, 2020, 10:27 am
#31
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If I can choose my Polaris seat it is row 1 or 9, followed by any odd number.
However, if my seat preference is not available I will still take a Polaris seat (odd or even, window or aisle). It is a lie flat seat with aisle access. Beats E+ and PP any day of the week.
However, if my seat preference is not available I will still take a Polaris seat (odd or even, window or aisle). It is a lie flat seat with aisle access. Beats E+ and PP any day of the week.
Feb 3, 2020, 10:43 am
#32
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I don't understand why people object to the angled seat. Because of the angle? I don't get that.
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
Feb 3, 2020, 10:52 am
#33
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I don't understand why people object to the angled seat. Because of the angle? I don't get that.
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
For the even rows you are closer to the aisle and as a lighter sleeper the movement and noise can wake me whereas the odd rows seem to have a bit more protection.
Again, as I said in my post above any Polaris seat is better than PP or E+.
Feb 3, 2020, 10:59 am
#34
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Feb 3, 2020, 11:01 am
#35
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The odd-numbered straight seats are actually quite difficult to squeeze in and out of, uniike the even-numbered angled seats which are much easier in this respect.
Feb 3, 2020, 11:01 am
#36
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I don't understand why people object to the angled seat. Because of the angle? I don't get that.
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
In post#8, it said the angled seat isn't the same - and implied inferior to - to the straight seats. Is that true?
I'm trying to get a handle on this for my next UA flight. But I've flown so many herringbone style cabins, I'm just not seeing the problem if it's just an odd orientation preference. There has to be something else
Feb 3, 2020, 11:53 am
#37
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One person's more exposed feeling is another person's less claustrophobic feeling. In the end, these are all minor issues compared to flying in 10-across Y on a 777.
Feb 3, 2020, 12:06 pm
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Feb 3, 2020, 12:36 pm
#39
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Let’s change the even row seat colors to dark green and discount them by 800 bucks. They’d go like hot cakes. Mark my words.
In seriousness, I really thought I hated the even “angled” seats (btw I think they all are angled). I got stuck, in the next to last row on a long TPAC recently and actually loved it. Why? I liked the config of the table and storage and footrest better. The little bit of lost privacy didn’t matter because I was in the back....meaning zero foot traffic to/ from the galley and bathroom by FAs and pax.
In seriousness, I really thought I hated the even “angled” seats (btw I think they all are angled). I got stuck, in the next to last row on a long TPAC recently and actually loved it. Why? I liked the config of the table and storage and footrest better. The little bit of lost privacy didn’t matter because I was in the back....meaning zero foot traffic to/ from the galley and bathroom by FAs and pax.
Feb 3, 2020, 12:50 pm
#40
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The word on the internet is the odd (non-angled seats)are better, so the "herd" is just going with what they have heard. Odd seats go first but in the end, usually, all the seats are filled. There are pluss and minuses to odd vs even but the odd PR team has done a better job.
UA is far from the only carrier with herringbone layout and there is a reason for that -- all straight is space inefficient and would reduce the number of seats. The herringbone layout leads to different plus / minuses on the odd / even and different personal preferences.
UA is far from the only carrier with herringbone layout and there is a reason for that -- all straight is space inefficient and would reduce the number of seats. The herringbone layout leads to different plus / minuses on the odd / even and different personal preferences.
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Feb 3, 2020, 1:08 pm
#41
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United probably knows this, but what are they going to do? People still pay for them.
If I were paying for a J ticket I'd still pay for the J ticket even if all that was left were seats in even rows. Yes, the odd rows are a slightly nicer seat, but it's not a huge deal. It's like not being able to get an aisle in the front of E+. You grab something decent elsewhere and move on.
If I were paying for a J ticket I'd still pay for the J ticket even if all that was left were seats in even rows. Yes, the odd rows are a slightly nicer seat, but it's not a huge deal. It's like not being able to get an aisle in the front of E+. You grab something decent elsewhere and move on.
Feb 3, 2020, 1:17 pm
#42
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But United doesn’t was to give away seats, they want to sell them. Most other airlines have similar seating arrangements to the new Polaris so it a market driven requirement. If I’m upgrading I’ll happily take the 2-4-2 configuration over coach but if I’m paying, I’d take the new Polaris over the 2-4-2.
Feb 3, 2020, 2:38 pm
#44
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[Seats with no angling or tapering and a full rectangular body footprints are generally found only in first class-- even QSuites taper, by the way.]
Feb 3, 2020, 2:42 pm
#45
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I've flown in the 'angled' seats a few times now, and while I prefer the 'straight-line' seats, I am not upset if I end up in one, especially on an upgrade. It's not a materially worse experience, IMO.
If you were scoring a higher upgrade percentage with the IPTE configuration, it's not because of the number of seats in the cabin. Generally, with the Polaris mods, there are the same or more premium seats than before (except for the 788, of which 1/12 is in service).
If you were scoring a higher upgrade percentage with the IPTE configuration, it's not because of the number of seats in the cabin. Generally, with the Polaris mods, there are the same or more premium seats than before (except for the 788, of which 1/12 is in service).