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UA publishes a schedule for 330 days in advance (called Beginning of Schedule) and in the past would make tweaks quarterly and things would be fairly settles 3-4 months out. Updates would occur Friday evening / Saturday morning (Chicago time). Routine additions could occur anytime.

Present updates are every Friday and sometimes mid-week usually focused on the next month and farther out.

20 Oct 2021
Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
In the earnings call today, UA noted that has been transitioning back to its 'normal' (pre-pandemic) 90-day schedule load process, which should be complete in the very near future.
However, during the COVID era, UA has gone to a more dynamic and shorter-term setting of schedule (as has the other carriers). Presently UA, while UA is still publishing a schedule for 330 days in advance it reflects pre-COVID operational levels and is considered just a placeholder schedule. Then 3-5 weeks prior to a month, UA makes a major update of that month's schedule.

Examples (Major updates)
The October 2020 schedule was updated 4-5 September 2020
The November 2020 schedule was updated 2-3 October 2020
The December 2020 schedule was updated 30-31 October 2020
Holidays can move the major date a week earlier or later.
Weekly updates are still generally done over night Friday-Saturday (Chicago)

UA does not publish a summary of most schedule changes but a variety of sources below do and summaries / links of those sources can be found in this thread & wiki.


Always crosscheck with UA's Travel Notices , Coronavirus (COVID-19) travel waivers and information, www.united.com/coronavirus as the situation is dynamic


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Old Feb 1, 22, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by bluedemon211 View Post
Well, that just scuttled 5 Q1 trips for me I hope UA chooses to do a promo now for what's left of the quarter. I can shift to some routes/clients that are running, but all that does is mess up Q2-4. C'mon UA. motivate us to fly UA the next 60 days.
I love that this came like 10 days after Kirby was all over CNBC saying that they still believed 2022 was going to be a record-breaking year for summer European travel.
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I love that this came like 10 days after Kirby was all over CNBC saying that they still believed 2022 was going to be a record-breaking year for summer European travel.
Has that guidance changed?
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Old Feb 1, 22, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer View Post
Has that guidance changed?
I should have been more detailed. The schtick of going on CNBC to pump the sub-sector of your business that you believe is going to do well when you're clearly in active internal conversations about how abysmally another, similar quantum, sub-sector of your business is going is the type of doublespeak that turns people off from C-suite corporate America. Specifically to the audience he was speaking to, it's also a good way for a CEO to lose the benefit of the doubt from The Street, which is actually a big part of a public CEO's role. It was a swipe from me at Kirby's EQ as opposed to saying their pound-the-table stance on Europe is foolish (though it may be).

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Old Feb 1, 22, 12:43 pm
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So disappointing that APAC recovery is still months and months away. Hopefully we can make up a bit in 2H22 but not looking very promising.
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
So disappointing that APAC recovery is still months and months away. Hopefully we can make up a bit in 2H22 but not looking very promising.

I used to go to China 3-4 times a year. Invariably, every January, April and October, with sometimes another trip sprinkled somewhere in there.

In 2020 when it first 'hit the fan', I was saying, "Maybe I can go for my October trip later this year".
In early 2021 I said, "Maybe I can go for my October trip this year". Not much later, I thought "Maybe I can go in January 2022".
By the end of 2021, I was saying " Perhaps Jan 2023".
Now, I think the earliest would be April 2023 and not even confident about that. I mean I'd love to go this October, I'd love to go in January 2023...I just don't see it happening.

I'm not afraid to travel, but seems like China and HK don't want me, and I'm okay with that for now. I'm itching to get back there as the lack of products I need to source is getting to be an issue; All of these stupid Zoom presentations, photos and samples back and forth just do not take the place of seeing/touching/experiencing the products in a face-to-face environment to which I'm accustomed.
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Couple of bookings I had on the 12:20PM LHR-SFO are gone and moved to the 2:10PM.

Pretty clever of UA to have the original departure schedule be
10:25AM
12:20PM
2:10PM (new)

and later choose to cut the middle one such that nobody has a schedule change of 2hrs.

Personally not bothered, although I am concerned that the downgauge to a 789 might turn into a non-Polaris 789 on a whim.
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Old Feb 3, 22, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by nexusCFX View Post
Couple of bookings I had on the 12:20PM LHR-SFO are gone and moved to the 2:10PM.

Pretty clever of UA to have the original departure schedule be
10:25AM
12:20PM
2:10PM (new)

and later choose to cut the middle one such that nobody has a schedule change of 2hrs.

Personally not bothered, although I am concerned that the downgauge to a 789 might turn into a non-Polaris 789 on a whim.
When is your flight?

I noticed that the resumption of LAX-LHR and commencement of BOS-LHR have now been pushed back by a few weeks, from late March to mid April, and various SFO/DEN/EWR-LHR frequencies have been cut into April and May. Seriously not impressed. If UA is going to talk a big game about adding brand new LHR and general TATL service two years into the pandemic, then they had better deliver. Or wait until closer in, when they have a better picture of the demand environment, before putting out all the pomp and circumstance.

And of course their website is still advertising all the new service beginning in March: https://www.united.com/en-us/explore-london

Starting this March, we are adding two flights from New York/Newark, additional flights from both Denver and San Francisco, as well as an all-new direct flight from Boston.

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Just got a message that IAH-SYD got canned. Got re-booked via LAX for October.
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Old Feb 3, 22, 8:45 am
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UA990 nonstop SFO-CDG restarts Feb 25, 5 days/week (not Tue & Wed); 7 days/week on May 10.

Feb 25 restart date wasnt postponed, but Tue & Wed restart WAS Mar 29.

UA984 CDG-SFO follows same pattern, 1 weekday later.

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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
When is your flight?

I noticed that the resumption of LAX-LHR and commencement of BOS-LHR have now been pushed back by a few weeks, from late March to mid April, and various SFO/DEN/EWR-LHR frequencies have been cut into April and May. Seriously not impressed. If UA is going to talk a big game about adding brand new LHR and general TATL service two years into the pandemic, then they had better deliver. Or wait until closer in, when they have a better picture of the demand environment, before putting out all the pomp and circumstance.

And of course their website is still advertising all the new service beginning in March: https://www.united.com/en-us/explore-london
I have bookings for Apr and Sept. I thought the Sept cancellation felt pretty aggressive, and on top of that it's a downgauge from what was previously scheduled as two 777s. I doubt we will see 3x SFO<->LHR this year.
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Changes happening for early May
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Old Feb 8, 22, 7:05 am
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I didn't seem to see a thread about UA's updated tpac flights until the fall of this year. I just read that SFO-SIN will be reduced to one flight per day until then. So I'm assuming when I'm searching for flights between now and then on UA's website or Google Flights, the schedule will be relatively accurate?
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Old Feb 8, 22, 11:47 am
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More schedule cut backs TPACs this time, courtesy of https://simpleflying.com
United Airlines makes significant transpacific cuts
Schedules loaded on Cirium and verified on the airline's websites show United has made another round of international cuts. These primarily impact transpacific operations:
  • Chicago (ORD) to Beijing (PEK) resumption pushed to October 29th
  • Chicago (ORD) to Shanghai (PVG) resumption pushed to October 29th
  • Houston (IAH) to Sydney (SYD) resumption pushed to October 28th
  • Los Angeles (LAX) to Melbourne (MEL) resumption date pushed to October 28th
  • Los Angeles (LAX) to Shanghai (PVG) resumption pushed to October 29th
  • Newark (EWR) to Beijing (PEK) resumption pushed to October 29th
  • Newark (EWR) to Hong Kong (HKG) resumption pushed to August 1st
  • Newark (EWR) to Shanghai (PVG) resumption pushed to October 29th
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Beijing (PEK) resumption pushed to October 28th
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Chengdu (CTU) resumption pushed to October 30th
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Hong Kong (HKG) resumes on May 28th with one daily flight (down from two)
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Seoul (ICN) reduced to one daily flight until late October
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Shanghai (PVG) continues to run via Seoul (ICN) four times per week
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Singapore (SIN) reduced to one daily flight from May through October
  • Washington D.C. (IAD) to Beijing (PEK) resumption pushed to October 29th
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Old Feb 8, 22, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare View Post
I didn't seem to see a thread about UA's updated tpac flights until the fall of this year. I just read that SFO-SIN will be reduced to one flight per day until then. So I'm assuming when I'm searching for flights between now and then on UA's website or Google Flights, the schedule will be relatively accurate?
flights you see showing up will be accurateuntil things change. Which throughout the pandemic, country reopening/rule changes, etc, has been happening way more than in the past. Most countries in Asia are not fully open, and so the flights UA wants to run will depend on the how the market is. hence the TPAC pull downs you are seeingflights will be coming back as demand doeseven a country reopening does not necessarily mean the demand will be there - there also needs to be business demand, which there still isnt nearly to the extent there was pre-pandemic.

Id say that even now, you should expect that anything more than 2 months out and theres a decent chance of changes. This especially applies to international, and within that, especially to Asia as that area of the world has been much slower to re-opening than, say, Europe.
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Old Feb 8, 22, 4:01 pm
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Latest TSA numbers and BoA airline travel booking report, suggests passenger traffic has fallen significantly since the first of the year .
TSA count was close to 85% of 2019 in late December and is now closer to 70%, corporate travel bookings had gotten to 80% of 2019 but then dropped to 40% in early Jan but is climbing again at 50% this week. Hence the empty planes and pushed out increase of international capacity.
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