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UA publishes a schedule for 330 days in advance (called Beginning of Schedule) and in the past would make tweaks quarterly and things would be fairly settles 3-4 months out. Updates would occur Friday evening / Saturday morning (Chicago time). Routine additions could occur anytime.

Present updates are every Friday and sometimes mid-week usually focused on the next month and farther out.

20 Oct 2021
Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
In the earnings call today, UA noted that has been transitioning back to its 'normal' (pre-pandemic) 90-day schedule load process, which should be complete in the very near future.
However, during the COVID era, UA has gone to a more dynamic and shorter-term setting of schedule (as has the other carriers). Presently UA, while UA is still publishing a schedule for 330 days in advance it reflects pre-COVID operational levels and is considered just a placeholder schedule. Then 3-5 weeks prior to a month, UA makes a major update of that month's schedule.

Examples (Major updates)
The October 2020 schedule was updated 4-5 September 2020
The November 2020 schedule was updated 2-3 October 2020
The December 2020 schedule was updated 30-31 October 2020
Holidays can move the major date a week earlier or later.
Weekly updates are still generally done over night Friday-Saturday (Chicago)

UA does not publish a summary of most schedule changes but a variety of sources below do and summaries / links of those sources can be found in this thread & wiki.


Always crosscheck with UA's Travel Notices , Coronavirus (COVID-19) travel waivers and information, www.united.com/coronavirus as the situation is dynamic


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Old May 4, 22, 2:02 pm
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Let's see what, if anything, happens in a few hours when Wednesday schedule changes are usually loaded.
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Old May 4, 22, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer View Post
No - they've never used the 772 HD from EWR - but the up in the air status of that fleet is likely having a ripple effect
What are the possible aircrafts that can be allocated for EWR-HNL? Seems like only the 764, and newer/retrofitted ones such as 772, 763 high J, etc.

Wonder why they ditched the 764 here in the first place... Seems to start taking effect on 5/6
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Old May 4, 22, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by a.tall.guy View Post
What are the possible aircrafts that can be allocated for EWR-HNL? Seems like only the 764, and newer/retrofitted ones such as 772, 763 high J, etc.

Wonder why they ditched the 764 here in the first place... Seems to start taking effect on 5/6
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.
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Old May 4, 22, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer View Post
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.
Yikes... makes sense however. Guessing there's not much we can do other than wait and see. Hopefully we get an answer soon.
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Old May 4, 22, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Rather inelegant.

Perhaps they've overcommitted with the summer schedule to Europe and now find themselves in a pickle.

That would be an indirect effect, as I don't believe UA has ever used the 772 HD on that route, as the non-ER aircraft don't have the range.
It is better for UA to not sell tickets and have to provide an involuntary changes.

UA was not able to bring the PW 772s back by mid May when they were expecting to do it. UA could have been planning to use a PW 772ER on this route which aren't back either. UA has 22 HD 772s (19 As and 3 ERs all PW engines) as well as 30 Polaris configured 772ERs with PW engines, so when up to 52 aircraft were expected to be used changes need to be made.

Originally Posted by Wx4caster View Post
Much like the concurrent thread about UA clearing out PP 2 days before a HNL-SFO 773 flight, this thread is making me nervous . I have three seats in first during the affected timespan - upgraded to D fare, at about $950 per upgrade. If it reverts back to 764, there's going to be trouble.
If your reservation shows a D fare you are in paid F/J (maybe get an updated copy sent to your email or printed now), United would be required to transport you in the same class of service (either nonstop or via connection) or provide a full refund for your F ticket. You could elect to take a downgrade and get your $950 upgrade fee back (and maybe make the case to UA for a ETF for your troubles)

Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Let's see what, if anything, happens in a few hours when Wednesday schedule changes are usually loaded.
Exactly, I have noticed that some wonky things have been occurring with UA pricing over the last few days which leads me to believe we are close to a big schedule change in the next week or so.

Originally Posted by a.tall.guy View Post
What are the possible aircrafts that can be allocated for EWR-HNL? Seems like only the 764, and newer/retrofitted ones such as 772, 763 high J, etc.

Wonder why they ditched the 764 here in the first place... Seems to start taking effect on 5/6
UA could use any 787, 772ERs, 77W, 763, or 764 as they all have the range. UA was most likely expecting to use a PW 772 on this route starting May 6 and use the 764 for other routes. Network planning is quite complicated and has a lot of different factors (e.g. cargo demand between east coast and HNL may make a 772 the better option)
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Old May 4, 22, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer View Post
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.
Just do a technical stop
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Old May 4, 22, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by N104UA View Post
UA could use any 787, 772ERs, 77W, 763, or 764 as they all have the range. UA was most likely expecting to use a PW 772 on this route starting May 6 and use the 764 for other routes. Network planning is quite complicated and has a lot of different factors (e.g. cargo demand between east coast and HNL may make a 772 the better option)
Seems like from the earlier posts that the PW 772 does not have the range for the EWR-HNL route?
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Old May 4, 22, 4:32 pm
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Is there some issue with the 773s? It looks like they downgraded a number of domestic hops very recently to 753 next weekend, including my IAD-SFO.
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Old May 4, 22, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by JAaronT View Post
Is there some issue with the 773s? It looks like they downgraded a number of domestic hops very recently to 753 next weekend, including my IAD-SFO.
All sorts of problems with the schedule the past few days - I think it is related to the 777 HD fleet and when they are coming back.
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Old May 4, 22, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by a.tall.guy View Post
Seems like from the earlier posts that the PW 772 does not have the range for the EWR-HNL route?
Non-ER PW 772s (all of which are in the HD configuration with 2-4-2 in J and no PP) do not have the range for EWR-HNL. PW 772ERs (all but 4 of which have real Polaris up front and PP) do have the range for EWR-HNL.
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Old May 4, 22, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Non-ER PW 772s (all of which are in the HD configuration with 2-4-2 in J and no PP) do not have the range for EWR-HNL. PW 772ERs (all but 4 of which have real Polaris up front and PP) do have the range for EWR-HNL.
Exactly it is the 32J configurations that are ER HD birds, originally intended to be used ORD and east to HNL so it is very possible that UA ends up putting them on EWR-HNL.
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Old May 4, 22, 7:39 pm
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IME schedule changes are usually loaded by 4-5pm PT. That time has come and gone, and seemingly no change has been loaded for EWR-HNL.
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Old May 4, 22, 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Non-ER PW 772s (all of which are in the HD configuration with 2-4-2 in J and no PP) do not have the range for EWR-HNL. PW 772ERs (all but 4 of which have real Polaris up front and PP) do have the range for EWR-HNL.
Are all PW 772s currently grounded (including P2 772ER)? Or just the 772 HD?
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Old May 4, 22, 8:44 pm
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Are all PW 772s currently grounded (including P2 772ER)? Or just the 772 HD?
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UA Temporarily Grounds Boeing 772 (PW Power); returning to service: mid,late May2022?
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Old May 4, 22, 8:50 pm
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Just checked HNL-IAD on 6/22 and its zero'd out as well.
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