UA-Schedule changes
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#137
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 37
Wonder why they ditched the 764 here in the first place... Seems to start taking effect on 5/6
#138
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,559
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.
#139
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 37
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.
#140
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 1,578
UA was not able to bring the PW 772s back by mid May when they were expecting to do it. UA could have been planning to use a PW 772ER on this route which aren't back either. UA has 22 HD 772s (19 As and 3 ERs all PW engines) as well as 30 Polaris configured 772ERs with PW engines, so when up to 52 aircraft were expected to be used changes need to be made.
Much like the concurrent thread about UA clearing out PP 2 days before a HNL-SFO 773 flight, this thread is making me nervous
. I have three seats in first during the affected timespan - upgraded to D fare, at about $950 per upgrade. If it reverts back to 764, there's going to be trouble.

UA could use any 787, 772ERs, 77W, 763, or 764 as they all have the range. UA was most likely expecting to use a PW 772 on this route starting May 6 and use the 764 for other routes. Network planning is quite complicated and has a lot of different factors (e.g. cargo demand between east coast and HNL may make a 772 the better option)
#141
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: PWM
Programs: UA Silver, AA Gold
Posts: 1,174
Depending on aircraft available they can always use the nuclear option and suspend the route and funnel customers to ORD or the West Coast. Given how pervasive this is - and how long it has been going on - I suspect they have some serious issues on their end not with just this route.

#142
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 37
UA could use any 787, 772ERs, 77W, 763, or 764 as they all have the range. UA was most likely expecting to use a PW 772 on this route starting May 6 and use the 764 for other routes. Network planning is quite complicated and has a lot of different factors (e.g. cargo demand between east coast and HNL may make a 772 the better option)
#144
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,559
All sorts of problems with the schedule the past few days - I think it is related to the 777 HD fleet and when they are coming back.
#145
Join Date: May 2007
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,840
Non-ER PW 772s (all of which are in the HD configuration with 2-4-2 in J and no PP) do not have the range for EWR-HNL. PW 772ERs (all but 4 of which have real Polaris up front and PP) do have the range for EWR-HNL.
#146
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 1,578
Exactly it is the 32J configurations that are ER HD birds, originally intended to be used ORD and east to HNL so it is very possible that UA ends up putting them on EWR-HNL.
#148
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 37
Are all PW 772s currently grounded (including P2 772ER)? Or just the 772 HD?
#149
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
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