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Old May 31, 2018, 8:42 pm
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SFO-TLV flight on June 14 - different time

Hi - I am not sure that this warrants its own thread but I did not know where else to post my question. The flight leaves SFO at 5:30pm instead of the usual time, which is 9:30pm. I was looking at other flights that week. I wish they offered that time on the other days but it seems to be just on the 14th. Does anyone know why? And is it common to change the time?

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Old May 31, 2018, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by daisyatl
Hi - I am not sure that this warrants its own thread but I did not know where else to post my question. The flight leaves SFO at 5:30pm instead of the usual time, which is 9:30pm. I was looking at other flights that week. I wish they offered that time on the other days but it seems to be just on the 14th. Does anyone know why? And is it common to change the time?

Thank you.
Maybe some kind of security concern associated with the end of Ramadan? Some reason they need to get in before shabbat on the 15th?
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Old May 31, 2018, 10:27 pm
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It occurs on the second Thursday of each month 6/14; 7/12; and 8/9. Kind of strange -- per EF there appears to be a schedule anomaly or gap in the schedule 9/14.

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Old May 31, 2018, 10:39 pm
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I'm guessing to occasionally allow flyers to arrive before sabbath begins at sundown on Friday.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 2:38 am
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That would be logical, but then why only second Thursday of every month?
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by sabbasolo
That would be logical, but then why only second Thursday of every month?
The turn time is usually only about 3 hours, but the earlier arrival has a 7 hour turn. Perhaps United is willing to accommodate this interest only once a month?
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 7:33 am
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Thanks. That is even cutting it close for Sabbath. In the summer, it could work but a religious person would want to be at home or wherever before sundown.

It also seems to stop in November? That is when the schedule goes back to the 787. It is also probably when El Al will start flying that route.

I really wish this was offered more often. I hate getting in so late...
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by daisyatl
Thanks. That is even cutting it close for Sabbath. In the summer, it could work but a religious person would want to be at home or wherever before sundown.

It also seems to stop in November? That is when the schedule goes back to the 787. It is also probably when El Al will start flying that route.

I really wish this was offered more often. I hate getting in so late...
LY pushed back their launch to May at the earliest.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by ctownflyer
LY pushed back their launch to May at the earliest.
I had not heard that but I also was not following that news. Thanks for the update.

Maybe I will ask when I fly in next week. The United people at Ben Gurion may know the answer.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 8:44 am
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Later in the year the Thursday flight is sometimes 15 minutes later:

Code:
 flight | orig | dest | eqp | departs  | arrives  |    from    |     to     |  days   
--------+------+------+-----+----------+----------+------------+------------+---------
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 21:40:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-05-01 | 2018-05-09 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 17:35:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-05-10 | 2018-05-10 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 21:40:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-05-11 | 2018-05-22 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-05-23 | 2018-06-13 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 17:25:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-06-14 | 2018-06-14 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-06-15 | 2018-07-11 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 17:25:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-07-12 | 2018-07-12 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-07-13 | 2018-08-08 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 17:25:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-08-09 | 2018-08-09 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-08-10 | 2018-09-05 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 17:25:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-09-06 | 2018-09-06 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-09-07 | 2018-09-13 | MTWRFS 
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-09-15 | 2018-09-23 |   WRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 22:55:00 | 23:05:00 | 2018-09-18 | 2018-09-18 |  T     
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-09-25 | 2018-10-02 | MT R SU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-10-03 | 2018-10-10 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 17:25:00 | 17:35:00 | 2018-10-11 | 2018-10-11 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 77W | 21:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-10-12 | 2018-10-25 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 21:40:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-10-26 | 2018-10-26 |     F  
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 21:30:00 | 2018-10-27 | 2018-10-27 |      S 
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2018-10-28 | 2018-11-03 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2018-11-04 | 2018-11-14 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:45:00 | 22:55:00 | 2018-11-15 | 2018-11-15 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2018-11-16 | 2018-12-19 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:45:00 | 22:55:00 | 2018-12-20 | 2018-12-20 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2018-12-21 | 2019-01-16 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:45:00 | 22:55:00 | 2019-01-17 | 2019-01-17 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2019-01-18 | 2019-02-13 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:45:00 | 22:55:00 | 2019-02-14 | 2019-02-14 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2019-02-15 | 2019-03-09 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2019-03-10 | 2019-03-20 | MTW FSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:45:00 | 21:55:00 | 2019-03-14 | 2019-03-14 |    R   
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 21:40:00 | 2019-03-21 | 2019-03-27 | MTWRFSU
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 22:30:00 | 22:40:00 | 2019-03-28 | 2019-03-29 |    RF  
 UA954  | SFO  | TLV  | 788 | 21:40:00 | 21:40:00 | 2019-03-30 | 2020-03-30 | MTWRFSU
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by daisyatl
Thanks. That is even cutting it close for Sabbath. In the summer, it could work but a religious person would want to be at home or wherever before sundown.

It also seems to stop in November? .
In the winter it would no longer allow Sabbath observers to take the flight due to earlier sunset times.

But more likely it just has to do with 77W rotation times.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 11:05 am
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Im on the 9:30 PM flight from SFO on a Saturday and like the 9:40 PM arrival as its close to my bedtime of 11 PM. On the return I get in at 6 AM on Saturday and badically just start the day like normal.

I am fortunate to be able to sleep on planes in Y so the jetlag will be minimal..I did the 6 AM arrival into JFK on Delta and the 3 PM departure to SFO and I mucb prefer the 6 AM SFO arrival as opposed to JFK.
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by daisyatl
Thanks. That is even cutting it close for Sabbath. In the summer, it could work but a religious person would want to be at home or wherever before sundown.

It also seems to stop in November? That is when the schedule goes back to the 787. It is also probably when El Al will start flying that route.

I really wish this was offered more often. I hate getting in so late...
Too bad ... maybe charter a jet instead?
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Old Jun 1, 2018, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by malgudi
Too bad ... maybe charter a jet instead?
HA. I would love that but I am not rich. I am not even in business very often.

I have routed myself through EWR a few times though. But that is when I was flying from LAX. I won't from SFO because one flight is better than two even if the one gets me in late.

Originally Posted by danielonn
Im on the 9:30 PM flight from SFO on a Saturday and like the 9:40 PM arrival as its close to my bedtime of 11 PM. On the return I get in at 6 AM on Saturday and badically just start the day like normal.

I am fortunate to be able to sleep on planes in Y so the jetlag will be minimal..I did the 6 AM arrival into JFK on Delta and the 3 PM departure to SFO and I mucb prefer the 6 AM SFO arrival as opposed to JFK.
I am ok with the return. It is just getting in late and settled in. I like to shower, unpack, etc. That said, the flight usually does get in early. It is what it is but I would prefer 5:30.

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Old Jan 30, 2019, 12:55 pm
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SFO<>TLV Swapped to 787-10 Last Minute ( & swapped again back to 787-9)

Flying home on UA955 (TLV->SFO) on Friday, February 1st (so basically 24 hours from now in TLV)... got an email a few hours ago announcing we'd swapped to a 787-10. It seems this was a last-minute change and is not permanent [it's only for this single night based on a few searches I just ran]. It looks like only UA954 leaving on Jan 30 was swapped to 787-10 and then my return flight on Feb 1st.

I called GS about getting a better seat and they said it wasn't possible, that a few people already were downgraded because the aircraft swap (from 787-9 to 787-10) had resulted in fewer Polaris seats. Any idea what would cause such a last-minute change? This is a weird one IMO!

(Feel free to merge into another thread if this shouldn't be a separate topic)
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