Discussion of the Quality of UA's In-Flight Meals
#226
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I don't think surveys are really valid here. Of course people are going to say they like good food. That doesn't tell you anything about purchasing decisions. I bet there's a survey that says Y passengers care about legroom when we all know they don't.
If United was flying empty J cabins or giving out tons of upgrades, I would buy the notion they are doing something wrong. They aren't though- they are making bank.
At any rate, Polaris food is delicious. So even if food is driving purchasing decisions, it would work in United's favor.
Logistics is very relevant. It refutes preposterous statements about United only spending $10 on an international premium cabin meal.
If United was flying empty J cabins or giving out tons of upgrades, I would buy the notion they are doing something wrong. They aren't though- they are making bank.
At any rate, Polaris food is delicious. So even if food is driving purchasing decisions, it would work in United's favor.
Logistics is very relevant. It refutes preposterous statements about United only spending $10 on an international premium cabin meal.
"At any rate, Polaris food is delicious."
Surely you jest!!! Game! Set! Match!
#228
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My opinion on all of this - we aren't going to see some dramatic improvement to UA food (nor Delta or American) as they don't view the foreign airlines as competitors.
Air travel today, whether it being driven by tools like Concur, are more and more driven by Corporate contracts, and the US base fliers who take SQ, BR, TK, etc are becoming more likely to not be able to choose that carrier via corporate policies. The US Big 3 knows that - and they view each other as the competition, As far as those Big 3, I've had decent meals on those - and some, like UA - not so decent. There are pros and cons to each. Of course, don't get me started on my hometown airline Hawaii which has mushrooms in practically meal, which I can't stand.
I just don't think the Big 3 care about foreign "competition"
Air travel today, whether it being driven by tools like Concur, are more and more driven by Corporate contracts, and the US base fliers who take SQ, BR, TK, etc are becoming more likely to not be able to choose that carrier via corporate policies. The US Big 3 knows that - and they view each other as the competition, As far as those Big 3, I've had decent meals on those - and some, like UA - not so decent. There are pros and cons to each. Of course, don't get me started on my hometown airline Hawaii which has mushrooms in practically meal, which I can't stand.
I just don't think the Big 3 care about foreign "competition"
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My opinion on all of this - we aren't going to see some dramatic improvement to UA food (nor Delta or American) as they don't view the foreign airlines as competitors.
Air travel today, whether it being driven by tools like Concur, are more and more driven by Corporate contracts, and the US base fliers who take SQ, BR, TK, etc are becoming more likely to not be able to choose that carrier via corporate policies. The US Big 3 knows that - and they view each other as the competition, As far as those Big 3, I've had decent meals on those - and some, like UA - not so decent. There are pros and cons to each. Of course, don't get me started on my hometown airline Hawaii which has mushrooms in practically meal, which I can't stand.
I just don't think the Big 3 care about foreign "competition"
Air travel today, whether it being driven by tools like Concur, are more and more driven by Corporate contracts, and the US base fliers who take SQ, BR, TK, etc are becoming more likely to not be able to choose that carrier via corporate policies. The US Big 3 knows that - and they view each other as the competition, As far as those Big 3, I've had decent meals on those - and some, like UA - not so decent. There are pros and cons to each. Of course, don't get me started on my hometown airline Hawaii which has mushrooms in practically meal, which I can't stand.
I just don't think the Big 3 care about foreign "competition"
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Feel free to start a catering logistics thread and then explain how this isn’t the same for any 777 regardless of carrier, yet others provide more and better food and drink.
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I think that is fairly different - if there was collusion among Asian carriers/countires, I'm sure the US Big 3 would have the same reaction as the ME3 campaign.
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Let' try to get this thread back on track -- quality of UA's in flight meals.
Numerous inappropriate posts have been removed.
Remember the propose of FT is to have a civil, constructive discussion. We discuss the issues, not the poster(s). Taunting, snarky responses are not allowed.
Disagreeing, even vigorous disagreeing is fine -- but going around and around on the same disagreement is pointless. It becomes pretty clear some hold certain opinions that are unlikely to change -- at times it is more useful to agree to disagree.
And let's stay focused on UA.
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Numerous inappropriate posts have been removed.
Remember the propose of FT is to have a civil, constructive discussion. We discuss the issues, not the poster(s). Taunting, snarky responses are not allowed.
Disagreeing, even vigorous disagreeing is fine -- but going around and around on the same disagreement is pointless. It becomes pretty clear some hold certain opinions that are unlikely to change -- at times it is more useful to agree to disagree.
And let's stay focused on UA.
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#233
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On the printed menu that AS provides it clearly states that an express option is available. So you can have fast and adequate!
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I have to say that I switched to UA last month after 12 years of EXP at AA, and while my flights have been on time, service has been good/decent, consistently offered a PDB (this is very inconsistent at AA), planes are older (no mystery there), my disappointment has been the noticeable difference in food quality. I purchased F/J EWR-EGE-EWR, EWR-PUJ-EWR, and got upgraded EWR-MCO, and I've been disappointed in the food quality compared to AA each time. The offerings lack inspiration, flavor, and feel like something you might be offered in an elementary school cafeteria. I've been on FT a long time, and there's no thread on the AA side about the concern over the food quality, so that says something right there. Of course there are some complaints , but no dedicated thread about the quality. One significant difference is AA always includes a salad with entrees and comes around with a bread basked with 2-3 varieties of warm bread vs. UA has packaged cheese on the side. The BBQ brisket I recently had was fatty and mostly un-chewable, the pasta had little flavor, and the egg white sandwich was so bland. Would it be too much to include a slice of tomato/salsa on the side, or something to add flavor? I feel like the food offerings are geared toward picky toddlers that only eat pasta and hot dogs with no toppings/garnish.
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I have to say that I switched to UA last month after 12 years of EXP at AA, and while my flights have been on time, service has been good/decent, consistently offered a PDB (this is very inconsistent at AA), planes are older (no mystery there), my disappointment has been the noticeable difference in food quality. I purchased F/J EWR-EGE-EWR, EWR-PUJ-EWR, and got upgraded EWR-MCO, and I've been disappointed in the food quality compared to AA each time. The offerings lack inspiration, flavor, and feel like something you might be offered in an elementary school cafeteria. I've been on FT a long time, and there's no thread on the AA side about the concern over the food quality, so that says something right there. Of course there are some complaints , but no dedicated thread about the quality. One significant difference is AA always includes a salad with entrees and comes around with a bread basked with 2-3 varieties of warm bread vs. UA has packaged cheese on the side. The BBQ brisket I recently had was fatty and mostly un-chewable, the pasta had little flavor, and the egg white sandwich was so bland. Would it be too much to include a slice of tomato/salsa on the side, or something to add flavor? I feel like the food offerings are geared toward picky toddlers that only eat pasta and hot dogs with no toppings/garnish.
Whether this costs UA traffic, all I can say is that United has under-performed DL and AA (until Parker's recent destruction of AA via service cuts and poor operations) and the JD Power consumer research I liked to shows that food and drinks matters a lot on international flights.
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I have to say that I switched to UA last month after 12 years of EXP at AA, and while my flights have been on time, service has been good/decent, consistently offered a PDB (this is very inconsistent at AA), planes are older (no mystery there), my disappointment has been the noticeable difference in food quality. I purchased F/J EWR-EGE-EWR, EWR-PUJ-EWR, and got upgraded EWR-MCO, and I've been disappointed in the food quality compared to AA each time. The offerings lack inspiration, flavor, and feel like something you might be offered in an elementary school cafeteria. I've been on FT a long time, and there's no thread on the AA side about the concern over the food quality, so that says something right there. Of course there are some complaints , but no dedicated thread about the quality. One significant difference is AA always includes a salad with entrees and comes around with a bread basked with 2-3 varieties of warm bread vs. UA has packaged cheese on the side. The BBQ brisket I recently had was fatty and mostly un-chewable, the pasta had little flavor, and the egg white sandwich was so bland. Would it be too much to include a slice of tomato/salsa on the side, or something to add flavor? I feel like the food offerings are geared toward picky toddlers that only eat pasta and hot dogs with no toppings/garnish.
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#240
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The problem is that people flying in J are probably mostly folks who would not want to eat at Luby's, and prefer something a little more interesting and adventuresome when traveling, or at least traditional food that is of much higher quality.