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PsiFighter37 Jan 24, 2020 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by Bunky (Post 31992110)
738:
N77530 exited AMA paint 2737/23Jan in EvoBlu paint.
738 at 10% EvoBlu

If I may ask - how many days does a paint job take?

uastarflyer Jan 24, 2020 10:39 pm

Any 737s or Airbii modded with new bag bins? Seems like 12F or paint only so far.

Bunky Jan 24, 2020 11:10 pm

319:
N802UA entered LCQ 2727/24Jan for 12F mod
N806UA shown as sked AMA 2727/24Jan, but CXLD, expect it in soon for 12F configuration

752:
N57111 entered MIA 2744/24Jan for 16/160 configuration

Bunky Jan 25, 2020 7:20 am

319:
N806UA now sked to enter AMA paint 2754/25Jan - oops already ahs 12F config.

LarryJ Jan 25, 2020 8:12 am


Originally Posted by EmailKid (Post 31985528)
Not to pile on, but 738 seems to do just fine with 16 FC seats.

The 738 has an additional F/A.

Minimum F/A staffing is 3 for the A319/A320/737-700 and 4 for the 738/739/7M9.

I do see an extra F/A scheduled on some flights but don't know what triggers it.

mike2003242 Jan 25, 2020 11:34 am


Originally Posted by LarryJ (Post 31993070)
The 738 has an additional F/A.

Minimum F/A staffing is 3 for the A319/A320/737-700 and 4 for the 738/739/7M9.

I do see an extra F/A scheduled on some flights but don't know what triggers it.

738 still only has 1 FA for first, the other is for Y. I believe you have to have 1 FA for every 50 PAX.

EmailKid Jan 25, 2020 11:57 am


Originally Posted by mike2003242 (Post 31993608)
738 still only has 1 FA for first, the other is for Y. I believe you have to have 1 FA for every 50 PAX.

Ya, once in the air, I've never seen a second FA working up front.

And technically I believe it's per seat, so you need all FAs even when flying half empty plane, at least that is what I've seen posted. But of course, there's also the positioning of FAs for next flight.

mike2003242 Jan 25, 2020 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by EmailKid (Post 31993675)
Ya, once in the air, I've never seen a second FA working up front.

And technically I believe it's per seat, so you need all FAs even when flying half empty plane, at least that is what I've seen posted. But of course, there's also the positioning of FAs for next flight.

You are correct on per seat not pax, even if there were only 1 PAX on the plane there would still have to be 4 FA.

LarryJ Jan 26, 2020 11:00 am


Originally Posted by mike2003242 (Post 31993608)
738 still only has 1 FA for first, the other is for Y. I believe you have to have 1 FA for every 50 PAX.

The 4th F/A helps with the meal service in FC and helps with the drink service and trash collection in economy.

Bunky Jan 27, 2020 7:00 am

320:
N496UA exited AMA paint 2743/26Jan in EvoBlu livery

738:
N33264 sked to exit AMA 2760/27Jan in Evo Blu livery
N37274 sked to enter AMA paint 2759/27Jan

772:
N77012 entered XMN 2763/26Jan, Polaris??, Maint?? - odd since believed all GE772 mods and maint done in HKG.

EWR764 Jan 27, 2020 10:46 am


Originally Posted by mike2003242 (Post 31993608)
738 still only has 1 FA for first, the other is for Y. I believe you have to have 1 FA for every 50 PAX.

738/739 min staffing (4) has 1 FA in the F galley and 1 FA serving in the F aisle to start. Once the service is done, the F aisle FA usually goes back to assist in Y (trash), and the F galley FA will stay up front to clear trays, top off drinks, etc. On the 319/320/73G, 1 FA does the entire F service (galley and aisle), so it's a higher workload. I don't think an extra 4F turns it into an impossible service (since DL, and NW before it, seemed to manage), but that F position consequently becomes pretty undesirable.

The proposed 20F configuration also added a closet to the F cabin.


Originally Posted by EmailKid (Post 31993675)
Ya, once in the air, I've never seen a second FA working up front.

And technically I believe it's per seat, so you need all FAs even when flying half empty plane, at least that is what I've seen posted. But of course, there's also the positioning of FAs for next flight.

The 2nd FA (738/739/757) is in the F galley.

It is true that minimum staffing is based on seats in a given configuration, not booked load. On certain flights, subject to a formula I am not familiar with, but taking into account load factor, an extra flight attendant ("load position") may be staffed.

Bunky Jan 28, 2020 12:21 pm

319:
N825UA entered LCQ 2746/22Jan for 12F mod.
N852UA exited LCQ 2763/28Jan with 12F mod complete

UAinAUS Jan 28, 2020 1:24 pm

UAX Update
 
CR5:
N616QX has been re-registered as N511GJ, ferried MLB for interior mod
N608QX has been re-registered as N519GJ, ferried AMA for new livery
N165GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL

Bunky Jan 29, 2020 8:17 am

738:
N87531 entered AMA paint 2733/25Jan for EvoBlu livery

777-300ER new delivery:
N2251U sked delivery flight 2718/29Jan to SFO for Induction. Polaris/PP equipped.
UA's 21st of 22 77Ws. Last one due in March.

Another thread states that in Earnings call, UA will have all 772s converted to Polaris by the summer season. With 7 total mod lines at HKG and XMN UA should be able to have all IPTE and Diamond seats units either converted or in mod by the middle of May. Assuming the next PW units in will be future Polaris units, all PW engined international aircraft should be converted and flying by early May.

Also, the four PW772ERs becoming Domestic will have a slightly different config than 772A units mostly due to lavs behind Door 2 instead of in front of door 2. 32 vs. 28 BF seats and 6 fewer Y seats. There is a swap of about 20 E+ becoming Y seats, maybe due to lavs. AVOD screens will be installed with new seats. Routings have not be revealed, but ORD-HNL/OGG should be included to avoid weight restrictions.

thejaredhuang Jan 29, 2020 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by Bunky (Post 32007932)
AVOD screens will be installed with new seats.

Is this just in J or Y as well?


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