OK, maybe E+ isn't all that bad.....

Old Dec 25, 19, 10:40 am
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OK, maybe E+ isn't all that bad.....

Ok, I know many of you will think that I am probably insane - but I am starting to realize more and more that E+ really isn't all that bad for UA domestic
even with the flight full, the added benefit of upgrading sometimes just isn't worth it for a relatively short (1-2 flight)?
for longer flights, just put my headphones on and tune out
....sure, if I can get a "complementary" upgrade or maybe relatively low $$$

International is obviously much better up front in lay flats (and I dont even mind the 2-4-2 on the 777's) - but it is really worth the $1k --> $5k difference?

sure, for some long-hauls it can be painful if he flight is packed........

-michael

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...so I know those of you who do that in a long weekend it is a different story - but are we being too picky?
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Old Dec 25, 19, 10:46 am
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To me, the greatest upside to E+ is that you are much more likely to be surrounded by people who know how to behave in a civilized manner on a plane.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by bart889 View Post
To me, the greatest upside to E+ is that you are much more likely to be surrounded by people who know how to behave in a civilized manner on a plane.
well sometimes the families they put in the bassinet rows at the front of E+ an be an issue but yeah overall valid point
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Old Dec 25, 19, 11:06 am
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although, it would be nice if they changed around their "snack boxes" a little
.... and the free 1k drinks are nice in E+ and since I rarely want/need more than 1 drink

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Old Dec 25, 19, 11:47 am
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Row 21 is a great secret place to sit on mainline domestics. Extra get room for the exit row, seat reclines when there are two exit rows and the guy in front of you can't recline......but don't tell anyone.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 12:03 pm
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We bash on UA a lot, but E+ was a legitimate innovation by United, and the airline still offers far more E+ seats than the competition.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by gene2632 View Post
Row 21 is a great secret place to sit on mainline domestics. Extra get room for the exit row, seat reclines when there are two exit rows and the guy in front of you can't recline......but don't tell anyone.
Not really a secret. Also, not every plane has 21 as one of its exit rows.

For me, E+ is more than comfortable for anything up to six hours (e.g. TCON flights). I have 5 R/Ts between NYC and SFO/LAX in January alone (not all with UA but similar seats at other carriers).
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Old Dec 25, 19, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by gene2632 View Post
Row 21 is a great secret place to sit on mainline domestics.
I like 45A/L on the 77W for TPACs. The middle seat beside it is very frequently empty, and I can get up and wander with reckless abandon. The door protrusion doesn't bother me at all.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by bart889 View Post
To me, the greatest upside to E+ is that you are much more likely to be surrounded by people who know how to behave in a civilized manner on a plane.
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..except for the unwashed masses that default into E+ seating because there is nothing left in E-......you know, the folks who get separated from their children or travel partners and then start a big, loud rumpus over not being able to sit together. Sorry, but any and ALL coach seating should not ever have become an ancillary charge.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingNone View Post
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..except for the unwashed masses that default into E+ seating because there is nothing left in E-......you know, the folks who get separated from their children or travel partners and then start a big, loud rumpus over not being able to sit together. Sorry, but any and ALL coach seating should not ever have become an ancillary charge.
That's why I said "more likely", and not "for sure". 😉
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Old Dec 25, 19, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by mfirst View Post
Ok, I know many of you will think that I am probably insane - but I am starting to realize more and more that E+ really isn't all that bad for UA domestic
even with the flight full, the added benefit of upgrading sometimes just isn't worth it for a relatively short (1-2 flight)?
for longer flights, just put my headphones on and tune out
....sure, if I can get a "complementary" upgrade or maybe relatively low $$$

International is obviously much better up front in lay flats (and I dont even mind the 2-4-2 on the 777's) - but it is really worth the $1k --> $5k difference?

sure, for some long-hauls it can be painful if he flight is packed........

-michael

(UA 1K with ~120k PQM in 2019)
...so I know those of you who do that in a long weekend it is a different story - but are we being too picky?
E+ is all i get usually. It's an amazing perk. I do SFO-TPE 4 times a year and it's been a full flight everytime i have travelled (usually a week day). So getting a E+ is a big perk for me even if its a middle seat on a couple of occasions. With Plat this year, may try to use the plus points to upgrade but its a route which is #3 i guess on UA's top route list, so good luck to me!
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Old Dec 25, 19, 1:19 pm
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I will be using E+ seating for my segment earning flights between PDX and SAN and only doing Z/C fares on my 2x vacations per year. I figure it’ll allow me to just make 1k min req’s.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 1:24 pm
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Ever since UA stopped giving complimentary E+ to *G, I haven't had E+ except for the few rare occasions of irregular ops (I avoid flying UA whenever I can). I don't have particularly long legs, so regular E is actually bearable for those domestic flights. Is it me or is UA now charging quite a premium for E+?

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Old Dec 25, 19, 2:12 pm
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Is it me or is UA now charging quite a premium for E+?
Part of me thinks UA is listing E+ as $50-200+ to make the elites feel better because they get it for free.

But in reality, all the free E+ in a year is worth, at most, a global E+ subscription (~$1000).

But yes, I agree the E+ seats are nice.
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Old Dec 25, 19, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingNone View Post
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..except for the unwashed masses that default into E+ seating because there is nothing left in E-......you know, the folks who get separated from their children or travel partners and then start a big, loud rumpus over not being able to sit together. Sorry, but any and ALL coach seating should not ever have become an ancillary charge.
I strongly disagree with just about everything in this comment. One, our fellow travelers are not the "unwashed masses". If anyone here really believes this, (1) take a Greyhound bus sometime, and (2) save up some money and pay for FC or a private plane. But I don't find other travelers to be anything like that- they just seem like normal people to me. No different than the people you run into at a baseball game, or the supermarket.

I have also not seen too many "loud rumpuses" about not being able to sit together- because most families actually don't buy Basic Economy when it discloses to them, in very prominent print, that they aren't allowed to sit together. I am definitely not a fan of seat trading on airplanes, but it also really doesn't happen that often. The vast majority of the time, everyone on a flight sits in their assigned seat.

Finally, the alternative to "ancillary charges" is bankrupt airlines. The unbundling of airfares, allowing for various ancillary charges, is responsible for the world we now live in where airlines stay in business and are profitable. And they don't hurt travelers at all- we pay for what we need. It is possible to get an excellent coach experience from United. You can (1) not purchase Basic Economy, (2) purchase an E+ seat, (3) purchase UC passes for your trip (which they will discount for you if you buy them at the time of your reservation), (4) purchase a checked bag, and (5) if you are still hungry after the UC, buy a snack box or meal on board. You will have an excellent flight experience! Much better than you would have had in Y 25 years ago.

Ancillary charges are good, not bad. And so is E+. You pay for the stuff you want.
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