Buying Individual Bulk Fares Directly from United / United Vacations
Oct 6, 2021, 11:32 pm
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UV does use BULK fares. Hence the question does UA show a fare for the flight portion. Calling also can answer.
Is this EWR-SJC?
is the one way flight mileage about 2,400 miles?
Is this EWR-SJC?
is the one way flight mileage about 2,400 miles?
Oct 6, 2021, 11:57 pm
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The trip is SFO-CUN, about 2,400 miles.
You are right, UV has this information, says bulk fare. How are PQP for bulk fares computed?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Oct 7, 2021 at 12:08 am Reason: merged update / consecutive posts by same member
Oct 7, 2021, 12:06 am
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either -- just want to know if BULK and if not the actually fare.
Guessed the wrong coast
2,407 * 0.30 (P Bulk Fare) * 2 == 1,445 PQPs (used GCMAP SFO-CUN mileage , if UA uses 2,410 you would get 1,446)
Guessed the wrong coast
2,407 * 0.30 (P Bulk Fare) * 2 == 1,445 PQPs (used GCMAP SFO-CUN mileage , if UA uses 2,410 you would get 1,446)
Oct 7, 2021, 12:32 am
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I am curious, where did you get the 0.30(P Bulk Fare) from? You must be right, as United.com has your second number (1,446 PQP). If 1,446 is the right number, I want to make sure this is what I will get, as this will get me to 1K with no trips beyond what I am already planning.
What confuses me is that if I were to book a regular P fare on United.com right now, I will get fewer PQPs. I just looked it up, I would get less than 800 PQPs.
EDIT: I figured it out using this page and this one. The formula is: award miles earned divided by 5. Award miles for P class include a 50% bonus. So 1.5 / 5 = 0.3, which is exactly what you have.
Last edited by FreFly; Oct 7, 2021 at 9:58 am Reason: Additional info added
Oct 7, 2021, 10:12 am
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See discussion of this in Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal
Oct 7, 2021, 11:55 am
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WCU,
Is there a difference between bulk Tixs issued by consolidators & a tix issued as part of a tour hotel& car? Are all Tixs issued as part of the tour eligible to receive PQP? How does UA MP calculate the PQP for that tix if it is one of Tour component and there is fare on the tix? Thank you WCU
Is there a difference between bulk Tixs issued by consolidators & a tix issued as part of a tour hotel& car? Are all Tixs issued as part of the tour eligible to receive PQP? How does UA MP calculate the PQP for that tix if it is one of Tour component and there is fare on the tix? Thank you WCU
Oct 7, 2021, 6:38 pm
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If the tour operater uses standard published fare tickets, then UA knows the fare and will calculate PQPs the standard. If you want to know prior to purchase, you need to ask if BULK tickets will be used.
Oct 8, 2021, 9:22 am
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Thank you WCU!!.
You have confirmed what I I assumed.
Tixs issued as part of a tour package not all may be eligible to receive PQP.
I recall reading awhile ago on UA MP site there was a note that Tixs part of a Tour may not be eligible.
You have confirmed what I I assumed.
Tixs issued as part of a tour package not all may be eligible to receive PQP.
I recall reading awhile ago on UA MP site there was a note that Tixs part of a Tour may not be eligible.
Oct 14, 2021, 8:04 pm
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Any recent insight into this?
Oct 15, 2021, 12:36 am
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I've been playing around with the website, but still cannot see anywhere in the United Vacations booking tool that confirms a fare is published or bulk prior to purchase - and without a 24hr free cancel to book and see how the PQP show up on the confirmation, I wouldn't risk it without being certain what the fare is before purchase.
Any recent insight into this?
Any recent insight into this?
Oct 15, 2021, 5:30 am
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It seems like there was a recent change to the way flights are displayed and you cannot click on the flight number in the selection screen. However, if you make it to the checkout screen, you can find it there. Click on the flight number and a pop up appears which will list the flight number followed by the fare type (Bulk or Published).
Good luck!
Good luck!
Oct 15, 2021, 11:25 am
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It seems like there was a recent change to the way flights are displayed and you cannot click on the flight number in the selection screen. However, if you make it to the checkout screen, you can find it there. Click on the flight number and a pop up appears which will list the flight number followed by the fare type (Bulk or Published).
Good luck!
Good luck!
Oct 19, 2021, 7:09 pm
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Has anyone bought a ticket package from United Vacations and then loaded their flight reservation into United.com and the mileage earning amount (for a bulk ticket) shows "0"?
This is actually my first bulk ticket purchase through this channel and I got a pretty decent deal for Bogota at $800 for first class, 2 nights hotel and 2,100 PQP which puts me 50% towards closing my 2021 gap - but I can't find a receipt or fare rules and want to make sure they didn't issue some special form of bulk fare that is ineligible for mileage vs a website glitch not showing the correct accruals.
This is actually my first bulk ticket purchase through this channel and I got a pretty decent deal for Bogota at $800 for first class, 2 nights hotel and 2,100 PQP which puts me 50% towards closing my 2021 gap - but I can't find a receipt or fare rules and want to make sure they didn't issue some special form of bulk fare that is ineligible for mileage vs a website glitch not showing the correct accruals.
Oct 19, 2021, 7:34 pm
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Has anyone bought a ticket package from United Vacations and then loaded their flight reservation into United.com and the mileage earning amount (for a bulk ticket) shows "0"?
This is actually my first bulk ticket purchase through this channel and I got a pretty decent deal for Bogota at $800 for first class, 2 nights hotel and 2,100 PQP which puts me 50% towards closing my 2021 gap - but I can't find a receipt or fare rules and want to make sure they didn't issue some special form of bulk fare that is ineligible for mileage vs a website glitch not showing the correct accruals.
This is actually my first bulk ticket purchase through this channel and I got a pretty decent deal for Bogota at $800 for first class, 2 nights hotel and 2,100 PQP which puts me 50% towards closing my 2021 gap - but I can't find a receipt or fare rules and want to make sure they didn't issue some special form of bulk fare that is ineligible for mileage vs a website glitch not showing the correct accruals.
Oct 19, 2021, 8:29 pm
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The ticket was just issued and now it shows the correct amount - 18000 reward miles and 2160 PQP, so I guess it needs to issue first before doing the calculation.
