Travel waiver SFO weather Dec 6-7 2019
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Likely to start out with the delays early in the morning as the winds will be out of the SE which will force them to land on the south runways - this cuts the arrival rate in half. You are looking at 2.5 - 3 hour delays.
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I guess you could call it "second level bad" as the first level of bad is when low clouds force arrivals to sequence for 28 R/L ILS instead of visual, which already causes a decent number of delays. Any time they move over the 19s they only have one ILS runway so any clouds at all badly cut into the arrival rate.
Wind advisory:
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...WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM THIS MORNING TO 7 AM PST SATURDAY... * WHAT...South winds 15 to 30 mph with gusts up to 50 mph expected. * WHERE...The greater San Francisco Bay Area, the Central Coast and San Benito County. Although the entire forecast area is included in the wind advisory, there will be areas that are sheltered from the advisory level winds. These areas include some of interior valleys and parts of the southern Santa Clara Valley. The strongest winds are expected along the coast, in the hills and focused over the North Bay as the front passes through tonight. * WHEN...From 10 AM Friday to 7 AM PST Saturday. * IMPACTS...Gusty winds could blow around unsecured objects. Downed trees and downed powers lines may lead to travel hazard or power outages.
Last edited by findark; Dec 6, 2019 at 8:19 am
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That's odd.. looks like they have issued a ground stop for SFO while they make up their mind about runway config. WX seems pretty calm at the moment, so this is pretty confusing to me
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CTL ELEMENT: SFO ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 1558Z GROUND STOP PERIOD: 06/1545Z - 06/1645Z DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (Manual) ZLA ZLC ZOA ZSE PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0 NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 382 / 51 / 27 PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: LOW IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND COMMENTS: RUNWAY CHANGE IN PROGRESS. EXPECT GDP AS AN EXIT STRATEGY.
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That's odd.. looks like they have issued a ground stop for SFO while they make up their mind about runway config. WX seems pretty calm at the moment, so this is pretty confusing to me
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CTL ELEMENT: SFO ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 1558Z GROUND STOP PERIOD: 06/1545Z - 06/1645Z DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (Manual) ZLA ZLC ZOA ZSE PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0 NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 382 / 51 / 27 PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: LOW IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND COMMENTS: RUNWAY CHANGE IN PROGRESS. EXPECT GDP AS AN EXIT STRATEGY.
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This isn’t odd at all. This is how it’s done. They are switching configurations to land on the 19s and depart the 10s. They have to stop more traffic getting in the air than they can handle on this setup. They will exit this stop into a ground delay program at a 26-28 rate. Delays will be extensive.