Oscar becomes Exec Chairman, Kirby becomes CEO on 20 May 2020
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A CEO who worked at HP/US/AA, so I'd be careful with what I wish for...
I'll admit I was surprised by the announcement of Hart becoming president. I know he was interim CEO while Oscar was out on medical leave, but I guess I just assumed the president title would stay with Kirby when he became CEO. That's not to say Hart isn't capable. It's just that his background is that of general counsel and the president position was separated from CEO because Oscar needed an airlines operations/network guy (i.e., Kirby). It does sound like Hart's brief as president will be different when to compared to Kirby's as president, though.
Anyway, best of luck to Messrs. Kirby and Hart.
I'll admit I was surprised by the announcement of Hart becoming president. I know he was interim CEO while Oscar was out on medical leave, but I guess I just assumed the president title would stay with Kirby when he became CEO. That's not to say Hart isn't capable. It's just that his background is that of general counsel and the president position was separated from CEO because Oscar needed an airlines operations/network guy (i.e., Kirby). It does sound like Hart's brief as president will be different when to compared to Kirby's as president, though.
Anyway, best of luck to Messrs. Kirby and Hart.
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kirby is attempting to sicken or kill passengers with his little packed to the gills a319 hub to hub flights. He’s can’t be gone soon enough.
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For whatever faults and reservations there are about him, at least Kirby is a fresh face from neither UA or ex-CO. Maybe he’ll bring a new perspective. Maybe.
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Saying Oscar isn’t from CO is the same disingenuous talk that Smisek wasn’t a “true” person from CO because he was so bad. He was there since 1995! And Oscar a board member picked by Bethune in 2004.
For whatever faults and reservations there are about him, at least Kirby is a fresh face from neither UA or ex-CO. Maybe he’ll bring a new perspective. Maybe.
For whatever faults and reservations there are about him, at least Kirby is a fresh face from neither UA or ex-CO. Maybe he’ll bring a new perspective. Maybe.
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The irony is that although Munoz is a CO guy I would prefer him to stay as CEO and find someone to run Ops with both heart and head. Or replace himself with similar. He has been a reasonable CEO.
Kirby packing in passengers on RJ equivalents in COVID environment is not an auspicious start.
Kirby packing in passengers on RJ equivalents in COVID environment is not an auspicious start.
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Think about it this way : Kirby is throwing passes, Hail Mary passes, any kind of passes that may or may not stick. And if he is let go, he goes home with 20+ millions in his pocket. No need to even discuss his "qualifications". May have some, but maybe not running a large airline. Immaterial. Case closed.
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Exactly. The employees should be outraged the titles weren't merged, the Executive team said they are doing everything they can to save the company and it's jobs. In good times that President package has to be around $10M, how many employees could that save? When and if UA comes out of this it will be significantly smaller but not apparently in the C suite.
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Exactly. The employees should be outraged the titles weren't merged, the Executive team said they are doing everything they can to save the company and it's jobs. In good times that President package has to be around $10M, how many employees could that save? When and if UA comes out of this it will be significantly smaller but not apparently in the C suite.
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Hart assumes role of President following the Annual Meeting of Shareholders on May 20, 2020
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Like Munoz and Kirby, Hart will forgo his salary as President. The company will not replace the role of Chief Administrative Officer.
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Like Munoz and Kirby, Hart will forgo his salary as President. The company will not replace the role of Chief Administrative Officer.
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more 8-K UA 15 May 2020
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