United has a PAYMENT PLAN?
#16
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
This is an unsecured personal loan. Period.
No idea what the interest rate ranges are because that is not set until the passenger completes the application and the TILA disclosure is provided.
Given the costs of originating a one-off loan, these are likely to be a bad deal as compared to a CC. Thus, for people who lack the cash or revolving credit to pay for a ticket.
Default here is no different than default on any unsecured personal loan. But, what is important to understand is that people who lack the credit to obtain a low-interest CC will likely use most of the credit available to them with this loan. Thus, leaving them in trouble if they have other important expenses to finance, e.g. car repairs.
No idea what the interest rate ranges are because that is not set until the passenger completes the application and the TILA disclosure is provided.
Given the costs of originating a one-off loan, these are likely to be a bad deal as compared to a CC. Thus, for people who lack the cash or revolving credit to pay for a ticket.
Default here is no different than default on any unsecured personal loan. But, what is important to understand is that people who lack the credit to obtain a low-interest CC will likely use most of the credit available to them with this loan. Thus, leaving them in trouble if they have other important expenses to finance, e.g. car repairs.
#17
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,938
Would you tell that to someone whose loved one in a far-off location was on their death bed? Doubtful, and does not necessarily have anything to do with being a "grown up." Again, options and credit, used responsibly, are good things. We don't know other folks' situations.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,332
A well-endowed portfolio is of no use to someone who is dying/terminally ill/etc, but memories of a life lived to the fullest can bring a lot more peace than a pile of saved money that one will never get a chance to spend, especially for those of us without kids or dependents. I definitely agree that high APR unsecured loans and HELOC's are a lousy way to finance travel, but I would counter that travel brings at least some of us more joy than any other potential expenditure. I am grateful that I have plenty of CC's to charge my airfare/hotels/etc to, allowing me to earn bonus points and purchase an amount above what my current cash on hand is (not counting long-term savings). I almost always pay them off within a month or two (depending on how complacent/lazy I am at the time). But some people are not in such a position, so at least they have other options available. I would prefer to see slightly less predatory APR, but that is what you get when banks pay off politicians to deregulate everything. Fear not, as I am fairly certain that the banks will not be losing any money in the long run; the risks of abuse have clearly been factored in. Hopefully, they will use judiciously, but that is not for me to concern myself over. Besides, the banks and courts can claw back your ATV's, boats, and 6 bedroom home; however, only death, dementia, or a massive head injury can take away memories of a trip (or two) of a lifetime.
#20
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
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There are a lot of people who buy/lease cars the same way. They don't even know what the total price for the vehicle was. All they look at is the monthly payment they see circled on a sheet slid across the table. Same thing here. There may even be people who could make the ticket purchase on a lower interest CC who don't think of it that way and use this payment plan because the numbers look manageable.
Whether the purchase is a good idea is entirely subjective.
Whether the purchase is a good idea is entirely subjective.
#22
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
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Posts: 6,654
Not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend upfront but could swing an expensive ticket if spread over a reasonable amount of time. That is the whole point of credit. Options are good thing, The interest rate being charged is intended to cover the credit risk being assumed.
#23
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 1.8MM
Posts: 6,335
Used car sales person: "Buy this car for $199.00"
or
United: "Fly business class, EWR-CPT return for $199.00"
<puzzled>
"Oh, $199/month for 48 months."
#27
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 1.8MM
Posts: 6,335
It's bad enough to foot the bill upfront, but to think someone has to relive the experience 12 times......YIKES!