Nov 2, 2019, 11:43 pm
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So, is anything happening with this? Just curious (Oct 3, 2019)
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Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
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ctownflyer
hog Heaven
AAdmiral
nsx + 1
RichardInSF
Sykes
soartoday
lax2jfk2lax
libuser + 1
Xyzzy + 1
Buster CT1K
1K Student
Elitefreak
flyer austin + 1 (wiki-restricted member, added by IAH-OIL-TRASH)
Radonc1 + 1 (not a FT member but has LT membership)
Halo117
mikey
Mnmag
Vulcan
lateacher
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MazdaMP
bajong
sandiego1k
thesilb
HnlJay
nachosdelux
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benolaa
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SPN Lifer +1
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Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
Lifetime Member Edition: UC access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner)
Jul 29, 2019, 12:38 pm
#256
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,777
1. There is no overcrowding problem at my home club
2. There really isn't going to be much difference in club crowdedness by granting an exception for lifetime members
3. The number of lifetime members are going down every year
United is creating a problem when there is not one present.
3. The number of lifetime members are going down every year
United is creating a problem when there is not one present.
Jul 30, 2019, 1:31 am
#257
Join Date: Jul 2003
Programs: UA1K 3MM, AS MVP 75K Gold
Posts: 2,706
Well, yes and no. Previously if you flew 2MM BIS miles, you got the lifetime membership. Okay, they don't want those of us who earned this lifetime benefit from using the club when on another airline. I get it. But if that's the case, UA should have said 30 years ago, the club is only for the use of those who are on UA flights, period. Of course, they never said this and people flew 2MM thinking that it would be honored for a lifetime.
And as been mentioned before, we're not talking about hundred of thousands of lifetime members. And every year, this number goes down since mortality has a way of thinning the herd.
And as been mentioned before, we're not talking about hundred of thousands of lifetime members. And every year, this number goes down since mortality has a way of thinning the herd.
Jul 30, 2019, 5:47 pm
#259
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFO, TPE, HNL
Programs: UA GS 4MM, RCC life member (paid), Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, CLEAR
Posts: 1,822
It's not like they are losing any business from you if you are flying other airlines and accessing the club - I have a lifetime membership from 2MM when they had that benefit and it never occurred to me to use the club using another airline until I read this thread. They philosophically don't want people in the club who aren't flying United - I think that makes sense.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:06 am
#260
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
It does not make sense to me and those who paid the lifetime membership with hard cash, at least a couple of thousand dollars of 1990 money. It also is in violation of the deal when they motivated me with using the RCC at HKG when I do not fly UA. (See my post #436 )
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Jul 31, 2019, 1:12 pm
#261
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,823
This is a classic: we made a deal, you don't want to honor the deal, type of thing. Fundamentally for most of us this is a liability from Continental that the merged airline wants to abrogate.
Sure, I'd love to have a credit card I never had to pay back either. This situation is all about an enterprise not wanting to make good on a liability and trying to hurt some of its most loyal customers through fraud because it is bigger than any of us.
Sure, I'd love to have a credit card I never had to pay back either. This situation is all about an enterprise not wanting to make good on a liability and trying to hurt some of its most loyal customers through fraud because it is bigger than any of us.
Jul 31, 2019, 1:21 pm
#262
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1.65M , Platinum, 1K Emeritus, UC Lifetime , HHonors Gold, Presidential Plus card holder
Posts: 694
I bought my LT President's Club membership in 1987 as an upgrade to an annual membership. the total cost was $900. Having gone through multiple bankruptcies where they could have had the court declare my membership to be over, I am grateful that it continues.
In my flying career I have only used this feature twice and those were pre-merger.
I have a Priority Pass through a CC and expect that if I need to visit a lounge when flying another airline a PP lounge is more likely to be available than a UC anyway.
To me, this change is small stuff and while I would prefer to keep this feature available, I expect I will be able to work around it.
In my flying career I have only used this feature twice and those were pre-merger.
I have a Priority Pass through a CC and expect that if I need to visit a lounge when flying another airline a PP lounge is more likely to be available than a UC anyway.
To me, this change is small stuff and while I would prefer to keep this feature available, I expect I will be able to work around it.
Aug 3, 2019, 12:35 pm
#263
Join Date: Dec 2018
Programs: UA AA WN DL BA LH
Posts: 7
The only reasonable response is to avoid flying United whenever possible.
Sep 6, 2019, 5:34 pm
#264
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,777
It's now September and nothing from UA.
They have announced that folks don't have to fly the MAX if they don't want to. That is a good decision.
Now it's time for the good decision on the United Club - Make an exception for lifetime members!
They have announced that folks don't have to fly the MAX if they don't want to. That is a good decision.
Now it's time for the good decision on the United Club - Make an exception for lifetime members!
Sep 9, 2019, 2:22 pm
#265
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,777
Some of the people in the neighborhood where I live have agreed to switch their flying from United to a different airline if I tell them there is no exception for lifetime members. Of course this will only work because out of my home airport there are plenty of other choices.
If this is just a numbers game, because of this United's going to lose more money than they would have spent on me. They're going to lose these particular Friends business and some work associates business -all because they didn't want to give me maybe a hundred bucks worth of stuff at the club every year.
Brilliant.
If this is just a numbers game, because of this United's going to lose more money than they would have spent on me. They're going to lose these particular Friends business and some work associates business -all because they didn't want to give me maybe a hundred bucks worth of stuff at the club every year.
Brilliant.
Sep 24, 2019, 3:38 pm
#266
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,777
Has anyone heard anything lately? I'm hoping United comes to their senses. I feel totally screwed over by this decision.
I just made another trip to a destination United won't fly to. They're punishing me for not using them when they don't offer service.
I just made another trip to a destination United won't fly to. They're punishing me for not using them when they don't offer service.
Sep 30, 2019, 8:27 pm
#267
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Francisco (Marin County), CA
Programs: UA Global Services, AA Lifetime ExecPlat, LH HON Circle, SQ PPS Solitaire, Hyatt Courtesy Card
Posts: 3,002
I found my file from joining CO President's Club lifetime in 1998. What I have is a brochure where you fill out your info and send it in, I have my form completed and a copy of my cashier's check. The form doesn't have per se detailed terms and conditions, but it has some non-legalese language on it. In pertinent part, it says: "[about 1-3 year memberships]...or join President's Club for all your future travels with the President's Club lifetime membership". Importantly, it doesn't seem to say "Continental travels", and of course, this wasn't in fact how it was enforced.
Sep 30, 2019, 9:33 pm
#268
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: AS Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Starriott LTPP
Posts: 341
Gary Leff posted that AA is now reconsidering this policy for lifetime. If they copy Delta, that would make United the outlier.
https://viewfromthewing.com/american...ub-commitment/
https://viewfromthewing.com/american...ub-commitment/
Oct 1, 2019, 8:58 am
#269
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,777
Come on United do the right thing and take care of your lifetime members like you said you were going to.
As I've stated before this is a self-correcting problem. The number of lifetime memberships goes down as time goes on. The problem will solve itself eventually.
As I've stated before this is a self-correcting problem. The number of lifetime memberships goes down as time goes on. The problem will solve itself eventually.
Oct 1, 2019, 12:43 pm
#270
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFO, TPE, HNL
Programs: UA GS 4MM, RCC life member (paid), Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, CLEAR
Posts: 1,822
You are right, but even if the number stays the same it is not much a problem for UA. It cannot be more than a very small percentage of the total membership..