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Old Oct 20, 2019, 6:42 pm
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Partner ticket PQP calculator
Partner Earning

Beginning in 2020, if you fly a partner airline (not UA metal) and your ticket is on the stock of another airline (not 016 ticket), you will earn PQP as a fraction of the distance flown. That fraction is determined by your fare class, and can be found in the tables below.
The way to derive this fraction is to go to the United earnings page for your airline and determine the RDM (not PQM) earning rate for your fare class. Then divide this number by 5 for "preferred partners" and 6 otherwise.
If the fare class of a non-016 *A partner flight allows RDM earnings (and therefore PQDs), the flight also earns Premier Qualifying Flight (PQF) credit.

Preferred Partner Airlines: AC AD AV CA CM EN EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN VA WK
Other Partner Airlines (status earning): A3 AI BR ET HO LO MS OA OU OZ SA SK SQ TG TK TP ZH
Other Partner Airlines (NO Premier credit): 3M 4B 9K EI HA UK VW

Note that for the third category you will earn RDM but no PQP, regardless of ticket stock (this is no change from before when you would not earn PQM).

For flights on or after July 1, 2020, the maximum Premier qualifying points that can be earned per flight {segment} on tickets issued and operated by Star Alliance partners and select MileagePlus partner airlines are as follows:

MileagePlus members who purchased tickets on eligible partners prior to these new rules may submit receipts showing tickets were issued prior to April 29, 2020, to [email protected] with the subject line "OA PQP Review" to be considered for PQP earning under the prior rules. Receipts should not be submitted until after travel is completed for flights on or after July 1, 2020.
UA Capping PQP Earn with Partners (update -- per flight segment)

Frequently Asked Questions
What if I fly a United-operated segment on a non-United ticket? You will earn PQP equal to the portion of the fare assignable to that segment. This information is transmitted from the ticketing carrier to United, and will be a somewhat arbitrary number between 0 and the full value of the fare component which includes that segment**. (This is the same as earning PQD on such a segment today.)

**Many reports of this not working even this well, and the potential number being outside this range.

What about codeshare segments? As before, codeshares do not matter. Only the operating carrier (metal) of each segment and the stock of the ticket determine your earnings.

How do I get a non-016 ticket? Any ticket purchased directly from another airline will be a partner-issued ticket, even if it has United segments. (Any ticket purchased from United will be an 016 ticket, even if it has no United segments.) Tickets purchased from an agency will usually have a stock of the marketing carrier of the most significant segment ("first long segment" usually).

What's the trick here? Because PQP are earned as a fraction of the distance flown, flying long distances on low-priced fares can earn more PQP than dollars spent. For any given journey, you should consider where you are earning a favorable ratio of PQP to dollars of at least 1.0 when ticketing this way, and consider ticketing with United if you are not.

What about BULK fares? Bulk fares will also earn PQP by distance, as noted in the table below. This is the only way to earn by distance on United metal.


Earnings Tables
Last updated in the image on 17-Nov-23.
To use: Determine the flight miles of your trip, then multiply by the applicable percentage based on the fare class of the ticket. That is your PQP for that segment. Example: 1000 mile flight on Air Canada booked in W fare code: PQP = 1000*.15=150).

Note that values >= 20% are rounded to the nearest 1%, and smaller values are rounded to the nearest 0.1%. If precise calculations are needed, you should always use the original source material (United website).

Star Alliance Airlines
Warning: It is strongly recommended that you consult the United earnings page for your airline and confirm the earning rate here, as they have been to known to change without notice and apply retroactively to tickets purchased before the change.
Note: There are special rules for AC branded Economy fares on 014 tickets.
GREEN background is a "preferred" partner.


Other Partner Airlines (not Star Alliance)
Warning: It is strongly recommended that you consult the United earnings page for your airline and confirm the earning rate here, as they have been to known to change without notice and apply retroactively to tickets purchased before the change.
GREEN background is a "preferred" partner.

Updated PQP calculator with new per-segment earning cap
Originally Posted by kevflyer
I created a updated version of the PQP calculator to handle the upcoming per segment PQP earning limits. It also calculates RDM:
https://pqp.economiles.com/


More Information on earning PQP and PQF
Earning PQP on flights ticketed and operated by a Star Alliance Partner
Members can also earn Premier qualifying points on tickets issued and operated by Star Alliance partners and select MileagePlus partner airlines. Your PQP will be equal to award miles earned divided by 5 if you’re flying on a preferred partner; for other MileagePlus partner airlines, it will be award miles earned divided by 6.

Please note award miles is your base award miles earning plus your fare class bonus award miles earning, if eligible. Premier bonus miles earned are not included within this calculation and are ineligible for Premier qualifying points accrual.

For Star Alliance airlines as well as Air Dolomiti, Azul, Eurowings, Edelweiss, and Olympic:

Preferred partner PQP: Award miles divided by 5

MileagePlus partner PQP: Award miles divided by 6

For example, if you earned 360 award miles for your flight, you’ll receive 72 PQP if you flew with a preferred partner, and 60 PQP if you flew with a MileagePlus partner.

PQP Calculator with option to apply max PQP per flight:
https://pqp.economiles.com/

For flights on or after July 1, 2020, the maximum Premier qualifying points that can be earned per flight on tickets issued and operated by Star Alliance partners and select MileagePlus partner airlines are as follows:

MileagePlus members who purchased tickets on eligible partners prior to these new rules may submit receipts showing tickets were issued prior to April 29, 2020, to [email protected] with the subject line "OA PQP Review" to be considered for PQP earning under the prior rules. Receipts should not be submitted until after travel is completed for flights on or after July 1, 2020.


For more information on PQP accrual for a specific airline, visit our airline partner pages.

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Old Mar 9, 2023, 7:07 am
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This is really helpful.....appreciated........
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 7:57 am
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Bottom line is that UA penalizes its program members for flying on partners in a way that none of its US competitors does.

I credit SQ to AS.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Bottom line is that UA penalizes its program members for flying on partners in a way that none of its US competitors does.

I credit SQ to AS.
Crediting to AS only works if it's on a SQ-marketed and operated flight. I ended up having to credit the max 1000PQP on a SQ-operated/LH-coded flight.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by hirohito888
Crediting to AS only works if it's on a SQ-marketed and operated flight. I ended up having to credit the max 1000PQP on a SQ-operated/LH-coded flight.
All OW programs credit based on marketing carrier. It makes less sense than the *A rule (operating carrier) and is certainly something to be aware of.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 8:38 am
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I just flew SQ SIN-FRA-JFK on Saturday and got 1000 PQP on a D fare.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by IAHMCI
I just flew SQ SIN-FRA-JFK on Saturday and got 1000 PQP on a D fare.
Direct flights (same flight number) are treated as a single leg for the purposes of the cap. OP won't have that problem with LAX-SIN-SYD. OP will just have the problem of traveling an extra 70% of the nonstop distance, with the longer leg in the least comfortable long-haul J seat I've ever flown (and that includes Northwest World Business Class and pmCO BusinessFirst, neither of which were lie-flat): http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LAX-SYD,LAX-SIN-SYD

OP: Seriously, while there are legitimate reasons to fly SQ to Singapore, I can't think of any to fly SQ from the west coast to Sydney.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan
OP will just have the problem of traveling an extra 70% of the nonstop distance, with the longer leg in the least comfortable long-haul J seat I've ever flown (and that includes Northwest World Business Class and pmCO BusinessFirst, neither of which were lie-flat): http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LAX-SYD,LAX-SIN-SYD

OP: Seriously, while there are legitimate reasons to fly SQ to Singapore, I can't think of any to fly SQ from the west coast to Sydney.
When was the last time you flew SQ? They've added a very thick mattress pad which resolved the hard seat for me. We flew SQ SFO-BKK last year and it was hands down my best overall flight experience (in both directions) since JL and EK F pre-pandemic. Better than QR Q Suites, better food and service than LX F.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
When was the last time you flew SQ? They've added a very thick mattress pad which resolved the hard seat for me.
My problem wasn't the hard seat, it was the offset between the seat itself and the cubbyhole for your legs. It's hard to explain, but at no point was I able to stretch out completely; I had to stay bent at the waist. It was specific to the A359 -- I've had excellent experiences on their 777 and 787, This would have been a few years ago, maybe 2018.

And even if the seat has improved, you're still talking about flying thousands of miles out of the way. If OP doesn't like UA, that's fine -- fly NZ or QF or VA. Heck, even a flight via Japan is only 37.5% longer than the nonstop.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 9:40 am
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This is on my mind today. How long should I expect SQ to credit to UA?

About 18 days ago, I had two paid segments, booked direct on SQ, on SQ and those should amount to about 300 PQP.

The ticket was problematic from the day I booked it. I could not add my UA # at the time of booking - 'invalid number'. I called in about 30 days before my flight and the UA # was manually added. I verified and the itinerary had UA *G recognized. At online check in, there was no mention of the UA #. It had it had to be manually added again at the airport.

Still no credit to UA. And while for some of you, 300 PQP is nothing, but for me it may make a difference between Silver and Gold for me in 2023.

Thanks!
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by lamphs
This is on my mind today. How long should I expect SQ to credit to UA?

About 18 days ago, I had two paid segments, booked direct on SQ, on SQ and those should amount to about 300 PQP.
Mine was credited in around 2 days. I would submit a credit request form to claim the miles/pqp.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by lamphs
This is on my mind today. How long should I expect SQ to credit to UA?

About 18 days ago, I had two paid segments, booked direct on SQ, on SQ and those should amount to about 300 PQP.

The ticket was problematic from the day I booked it. I could not add my UA # at the time of booking - 'invalid number'. I called in about 30 days before my flight and the UA # was manually added. I verified and the itinerary had UA *G recognized. At online check in, there was no mention of the UA #. It had it had to be manually added again at the airport.

Still no credit to UA. And while for some of you, 300 PQP is nothing, but for me it may make a difference between Silver and Gold for me in 2023.

Thanks!
I think after 15 days for partner flights, you can request missing miles online.

What fare class were you in, and are you sure it earns mileage? SQ is among the stingiest carriers in * for mileage - with only the few highest fare classes earning any. Personally, I’ve always been credited SQ flights within maybe 2-3 days of flight.
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by emcampbe
I think after 15 days for partner flights, you can request missing miles online.

What fare class were you in, and are you sure it earns mileage? SQ is among the stingiest carriers in * for mileage - with only the few highest fare classes earning any. Personally, I’ve always been credited SQ flights within maybe 2-3 days of flight.
My HKT-SIN & SIN-JFK flights posted within maybe 12 hours after arrival.
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Old Mar 30, 2023, 10:01 am
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Question Question about miles/pqp accrual on partner airline

My apologies if this is basic. I stayed away from traveling during Covid and now I am a bit rusty on all those pqp and miles accrual nuances.

I need to travel from us to canada and back. Flights will be operated by Air Canada.

I can buy a ticket from United (even though the flight will be operated by AC). Or I can buy a ticket from AC and provide them my United MP number.

Which option is better from (a) PQP accrual perspective and (b) miles accrual perspective.

I am assuming that buying ticket from Uninted (operated by AC) will still be a better option, correct? Unless there are some nuances I am not accounting for.
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Old Mar 30, 2023, 10:18 am
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It depends on the fare class and cost of ticket.

For example, I can buy an AC P class ticket for <$1000 which will earn 3000 PQP, in that case its better to buy from AC
On the flip side, you can buy a shorthaul AC low economy ticket that would earn 50 PQP for $500, in this case its better to buy from United

Use the pqp calculator https://pqp.economiles.com/ to see what the ticket would earn if bought from AC
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Old Mar 30, 2023, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by v1rok
I am assuming that buying ticket from Uninted (operated by AC) will still be a better option, correct? Unless there are some nuances I am not accounting for.
See thread here. Economy tickets require a bit of digging since the fare class that will be listed on AC isn't necessarily the fare class you'll need to use for the PQP calculator. My guess is that for a flight just to Canada and not a TATL hop you're almost always better off ticketing on 016 stock.
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