Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal
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#496
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 30 minutes south of EWR
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I think I am understanding this correctly, but please correct me if I am wrong:
Flying on SwissAir - HKG-ZRH-ORD in business class, Z fare class.
HKG-ZRH = 5776 flight miles
ZRH-ORD = 4443 flight miles
Total flight miles = 10,219
Z class earns 150% award miles, thus multiply 10,219 by 150% to get RDMs = 15, 328
Then, as Swiss is a preferred partner, divide 15, 328 by 5, to get PQP of $3,065
Does this sound right?
Flying on SwissAir - HKG-ZRH-ORD in business class, Z fare class.
HKG-ZRH = 5776 flight miles
ZRH-ORD = 4443 flight miles
Total flight miles = 10,219
Z class earns 150% award miles, thus multiply 10,219 by 150% to get RDMs = 15, 328
Then, as Swiss is a preferred partner, divide 15, 328 by 5, to get PQP of $3,065
Does this sound right?
#498
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 718
I think I am understanding this correctly, but please correct me if I am wrong:
Flying on SwissAir - HKG-ZRH-ORD in business class, Z fare class.
HKG-ZRH = 5776 flight miles
ZRH-ORD = 4443 flight miles
Total flight miles = 10,219
Z class earns 150% award miles, thus multiply 10,219 by 150% to get RDMs = 15, 328
Then, as Swiss is a preferred partner, divide 15, 328 by 5, to get PQP of $3,065
Does this sound right?
Flying on SwissAir - HKG-ZRH-ORD in business class, Z fare class.
HKG-ZRH = 5776 flight miles
ZRH-ORD = 4443 flight miles
Total flight miles = 10,219
Z class earns 150% award miles, thus multiply 10,219 by 150% to get RDMs = 15, 328
Then, as Swiss is a preferred partner, divide 15, 328 by 5, to get PQP of $3,065
Does this sound right?
#500
Join Date: Feb 2020
Programs: United
Posts: 1
Do partner flights have to be codeshare to get PQP?
I am looking at flying Sydney to Papeete return with Air NZ (Via Auckland).
I can't book it with United as they do NOT codeshare from AKL to PPT. They do codeshare from SYD to AKL.
Question is, will I get awarded PQP at the calculated rate (Award miles / 5) for the entire trip? Or only for the part that codeshares with United?
Any assistance appreciated!
I can't book it with United as they do NOT codeshare from AKL to PPT. They do codeshare from SYD to AKL.
Question is, will I get awarded PQP at the calculated rate (Award miles / 5) for the entire trip? Or only for the part that codeshares with United?
Any assistance appreciated!
#501
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: UA-1K MM, AA-Gold, DL-Silver, AS-MVP
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I am looking at flying Sydney to Papeete return with Air NZ (Via Auckland).
I can't book it with United as they do NOT codeshare from AKL to PPT. They do codeshare from SYD to AKL.
Question is, will I get awarded PQP at the calculated rate (Award miles / 5) for the entire trip? Or only for the part that codeshares with United?
Any assistance appreciated!
I can't book it with United as they do NOT codeshare from AKL to PPT. They do codeshare from SYD to AKL.
Question is, will I get awarded PQP at the calculated rate (Award miles / 5) for the entire trip? Or only for the part that codeshares with United?
Any assistance appreciated!
#502
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 16,332
If you book this trip on United.com -- which may not be possible; I'm having trouble pulling it up in the search results -- you will earn based upon the fare paid. If you book it via Air New Zealand, you will earn based upon the distance and fare class (for flights not operated by UA, which these obviously wouldn't be).
#503
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: YEG
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 229
Pardon my ignorance but if I am booking on an airline like Air Canada, how can I know what class it's being booked under (so I can look up potential PQPs in that nifty table)?
Is there a thread where people are collecting most-bang-for-buck partner airlines itineraries?
thanks all
Is there a thread where people are collecting most-bang-for-buck partner airlines itineraries?
thanks all
#504
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 5
18:20 Montréal (YUL) to 20:44 Vancouver (YVR) - 5hr24m 5 hours 24 minutes Operated by Air Canada AC 309 Operated by Air Canada Meal Cabin type (C)
09:30 Vancouver (YVR) to 17:07 Montréal (YUL) - 4hr37m 4 hours 37 minutes Operated by Air Canada AC 314 Operated by Air Canada Breakfast Cabin type (E)
#506
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For example, on this business fare deal to Guyana via Panama, YVR-UA-LAX-CM-PTY-GEO, is it more advantageous to ticket on UA (016) or add AC flights before and after and ticket with AC?
UA/CM: YYZ-GEO from US$740 or CA$975
UA/CM: YYZ-GEO from US$740 or CA$975
Do you earn more than 700*5 = 3500 RDM on this set of flights, without elite multiplier? That's going to depend on the fare bucket for AC, I think. But I guess you would.
So AC away, except you will need to spend more to add the extra segement(?) unless you can purchase on the AC site itself.
So AC away, except you will need to spend more to add the extra segement(?) unless you can purchase on the AC site itself.
UA's intent is that it shouldn't matter. In many cases it does -- expensive tickets should be plated on 016, and discount PE/J tickets should be plated on non-016 -- but you'd have to do the calculation yourself to be sure.
That said, I'm not sure that YVR-GEO fare will combine with intra-Canada flights. When I looked at it, the only way to plate it on 016 stock was to start from overseas.
That said, I'm not sure that YVR-GEO fare will combine with intra-Canada flights. When I looked at it, the only way to plate it on 016 stock was to start from overseas.
#507
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Location: Austin, TX
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For the YVR-GEO fare in particular, I don't know that you're going to have a choice. It's a UA fare, and it's not matched by AC or CM. I don't think it's actually possible to book it on non-016 stock except when using end-on-end construction with a qualifying fare, and I don't think a transborder US fare qualifies. If you can get it to come up on an AC ticket, that's great (and please reply to that thread to let people know how). However, I think you're going to find that the only way to buy it is from UA (or from a travel agent who will issue it as a UA ticket), so you're going to be stuck with earning based upon the actual fare paid, not the distance.
#508
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SEA ✈️ IAD
Programs: UA Gold, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 952
So with some poking around, I was thinking maybe Plat/1K maybe not all that out of reach after all.
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).
#509
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 8,481
So with some poking around, I was thinking maybe Plat/1K maybe not all that out of reach after all.
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).
I will probably "top up" my balance (and find yet another excuse to take a beach vacation -- twist my rubber arm) with an EWR-SIN-DPS trip when SQ has a premium economy sale (which seems to be a it frequent occurance). This fare can be bought for a little over $1000 (probably less through Amex) when there's a sale. It earns a little over 3500 PQP.
Whether you want to do that 3x is a different question...
#510
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So with some poking around, I was thinking maybe Plat/1K maybe not all that out of reach after all.
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).
I've already got ~9400 PQP worth of flights booked (assuming YVR-SIN holds).
With the MAD/BCN premium fare deal, in theory I could spend another $2000 and go LAX-YVR-YYZ-MAD-YYZ-YVR-LAX in J for 5552 PQP which would push me into Platinum (the opportunity cost being 3-4 economy fares elsewhere).
1K seems particularly steep though. There's no way I'm hitting 54 segments, and 15k -> 24k seems like a monumental jump. Short of another YVR-YYZ-SIN backtracking fare, I'd have to figure out how to get 9k PQP for an affordable sum (ideally <$3k).