Oct 11, 2019, 5:20 am
Last edit by: SPN Lifer
tl;dr - PQMs/PQDs/PQS going away, replaced with PQPs. $1 = 1 PQP. See chart below for thresholds:
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New Status Measures
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): Basically the same as PQD. Everything that was a PQD continues to count, plus:
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): Same as BIS segments (no class of service bonus) except Basic Economy and award tickets don't count.
PQP Earning on Partners
You can now earn PQP on non-016 tickets when flying eligible partners.
"Preferred" Partners (mostly JV partners): 1/5 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on AC AD AV CA CM EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN.
Others: 1/6 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on other airlines with MP earnings available.
Note: Because all partners earn RDM by distance when not on an 016-ticket, this effectively awards PQP by distance, from 40% in many JV First and Business cabins to 5% in things like LX K.
Preferred partners:
Bulk Tickets
Per UA Insider in this post: Yes you will now earn PQP on bulk tickets but not necessarily for the cash value since the price of the ticket is opaque. Bulk tickets will be equal to the award miles you earn for the ticket (excluding Premier bonus miles, if any) divided by 5.
Foreign Addresses
The PQD waiver for foreign MP addresses will no longer apply beginning in 2020.
Credit Card Holders
The PQD waivers and PQM earnings from all Chase cards are ending. Instead, Chase cards allow you to earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 of eligible spend, but only up to the following limits:
1,000 PQP / $24,000: MP Explorer, MP Club, MP Awards, and MP cards, plus their business equivalents (bonus PQP do not count for 1K)
3,000 PQP / $72,000: MP Select and MP Platinum cards
10,000 PQP / $240,000: Presidential Plus and PP Business cards
Existing Flexible PQM (FPQM) on eligible cards will become FPQP at a 5:1 ratio on 01-Apr-20 and will only be applicable through Platinum status.
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New Status Measures
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): Basically the same as PQD. Everything that was a PQD continues to count, plus:
- Copay component of miles+copay upgrades
- Paid upgrades (TOD or "sticker-type")
- Travel on partner airlines on partner stock (awarded as a fraction of the distance, similar to DL)
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): Same as BIS segments (no class of service bonus) except Basic Economy and award tickets don't count.
PQP Earning on Partners
You can now earn PQP on non-016 tickets when flying eligible partners.
"Preferred" Partners (mostly JV partners): 1/5 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on AC AD AV CA CM EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN.
Others: 1/6 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on other airlines with MP earnings available.
Note: Because all partners earn RDM by distance when not on an 016-ticket, this effectively awards PQP by distance, from 40% in many JV First and Business cabins to 5% in things like LX K.
Preferred partners:
- Air Canada
- Air China
- Air New Zealand
- All Nippon Airways
- Austrian Airlines
- Avianca
- Azul Brazilian Airlines
- Brussels Airlines
- Copa Airlines
- Eurowings
- Lufthansa
- SWISS International Airlines
- Aegean Airlines
- Air Dolomiti
- Air India
- Asiana Airlines
- Croatia Airlines
- Edelweiss
- EgyptAir
- Ethiopian Airlines
- EVA Air
- Juneyao Air
- LOT Polish Airlines
- Olympic Air
- SAS
- Shenzhen Airlines
- Singapore Airlines
- South African Airways
- TAP Air Portugal
- Thai Airways International
- Turkish Airlines
Bulk Tickets
Per UA Insider in this post: Yes you will now earn PQP on bulk tickets but not necessarily for the cash value since the price of the ticket is opaque. Bulk tickets will be equal to the award miles you earn for the ticket (excluding Premier bonus miles, if any) divided by 5.
Foreign Addresses
The PQD waiver for foreign MP addresses will no longer apply beginning in 2020.
Credit Card Holders
The PQD waivers and PQM earnings from all Chase cards are ending. Instead, Chase cards allow you to earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 of eligible spend, but only up to the following limits:
1,000 PQP / $24,000: MP Explorer, MP Club, MP Awards, and MP cards, plus their business equivalents (bonus PQP do not count for 1K)
3,000 PQP / $72,000: MP Select and MP Platinum cards
10,000 PQP / $240,000: Presidential Plus and PP Business cards
Existing Flexible PQM (FPQM) on eligible cards will become FPQP at a 5:1 ratio on 01-Apr-20 and will only be applicable through Platinum status.
United is updating the way MileagePlus members qualify for Premier status in 2020 for the 2021 program year. We recognized that distance was not the best way for us to measure customer loyalty, which is why we are introducing a new qualification structure to better deliver Premier benefits to our most valued customers. In 2020, members will only need to account for two factors to earn status: number of flights taken (Premier Qualifying Flights) and value of tickets purchased (Premier Qualifying Points).
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): every flight, a takeoff and landing, will count as a PQF except Basic Economy and tickets booked using miles.
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): 1 PQP = 1 U.S. dollar spent. You will earn PQPs on the base fare of your ticket (no taxes and fees), Economy Plus and Preferred seat purchases, and now on paid upgrades, MileagePlus upgrade award co-pays and credit for Star Alliance partner flights not ticketed or operated by United.
Qualification requirements for 2020
Here’s how members will qualify for each Premier status level starting January 1, 2020 for status in the 2021 program year:
United Cardmembers who are eligible for a PQD waiver, PQM, or Flexible PQM (FPQM) based on annual card spend will be offered new ways to earn Premier qualifying points (PQP) based on annual card spend. The ability to earn a PQD waiver, PQM, or FPQM on these cards will end on December 31, 2019.
Learn more: https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...qualification/
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): every flight, a takeoff and landing, will count as a PQF except Basic Economy and tickets booked using miles.
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): 1 PQP = 1 U.S. dollar spent. You will earn PQPs on the base fare of your ticket (no taxes and fees), Economy Plus and Preferred seat purchases, and now on paid upgrades, MileagePlus upgrade award co-pays and credit for Star Alliance partner flights not ticketed or operated by United.
Qualification requirements for 2020
Here’s how members will qualify for each Premier status level starting January 1, 2020 for status in the 2021 program year:
United Cardmembers who are eligible for a PQD waiver, PQM, or Flexible PQM (FPQM) based on annual card spend will be offered new ways to earn Premier qualifying points (PQP) based on annual card spend. The ability to earn a PQD waiver, PQM, or FPQM on these cards will end on December 31, 2019.
Learn more: https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...qualification/
New Premier Qualification Requirements for 2020: Only Spend or Spend + Flight Sectors
Feb 14, 2020, 6:12 pm
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Maximizing PQP on Star Alliance
For example, on this business fare deal to Guyana via Panama, YVR-UA-LAX-CM-PTY-GEO, is it more advantageous to ticket on UA (016) or add AC flights before and after and ticket with AC?
UA/CM: YYZ-GEO from US$740 or CA$975
Feb 14, 2020, 8:01 pm
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With the new Premier Qualification Requirements, UA has made it very opaque how to maximize PQP on Star Alliance flights.
For example, on this business fare deal to Guyana via Panama, YVR-UA-LAX-CM-PTY-GEO, is it more advantageous to ticket on UA (016) or add AC flights before and after and ticket with AC?
UA/CM: YYZ-GEO from US$740 or CA$975
For example, on this business fare deal to Guyana via Panama, YVR-UA-LAX-CM-PTY-GEO, is it more advantageous to ticket on UA (016) or add AC flights before and after and ticket with AC?
UA/CM: YYZ-GEO from US$740 or CA$975
Do you earn more than 700*5 = 3500 RDM on this set of flights, without elite multiplier? That's going to depend on the fare bucket for AC, I think. But I guess you would.
So AC away, except you will need to spend more to add the extra segement(?) unless you can purchase on the AC site itself.
Feb 15, 2020, 10:44 am
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That said, I'm not sure that YVR-GEO fare will combine with intra-Canada flights. When I looked at it, the only way to plate it on 016 stock was to start from overseas.
Sure, there's nothing stopping UA from offering a double PQD promo, or a MilePlay style "four $300 flights, get 1000 bonus PQD" promo, or whatever. I suspect that they will do that if the weak demand spreads past China.
Feb 15, 2020, 11:05 pm
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My wife has a flight on BR - one leg is Q class (75% RDM on United) and one leg is V class (0% RDM on United).
If she accrues the itinerary to UA, I know she will get 1 PQF and some PQP ((distance * 0.75)/6) on the Q fare leg, and I know she will get 0 PQP on the V class leg. But, will she still get 1 PQF on the V class leg, despite no RDM due to fare class?
If she accrues the itinerary to UA, I know she will get 1 PQF and some PQP ((distance * 0.75)/6) on the Q fare leg, and I know she will get 0 PQP on the V class leg. But, will she still get 1 PQF on the V class leg, despite no RDM due to fare class?
Feb 15, 2020, 11:08 pm
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My wife has a flight on BR - one leg is Q class (75% RDM on United) and one leg is V class (0% RDM on United).
If she accrues the itinerary to UA, I know she will get 1 PQF and some PQP ((distance * 0.75)/6) on the Q fare leg, and I know she will get 0 PQP on the V class leg. But, will she still get 1 PQF on the V class leg, despite no RDM due to fare class?
If she accrues the itinerary to UA, I know she will get 1 PQF and some PQP ((distance * 0.75)/6) on the Q fare leg, and I know she will get 0 PQP on the V class leg. But, will she still get 1 PQF on the V class leg, despite no RDM due to fare class?
Feb 15, 2020, 11:14 pm
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Thanks for the quick response and the clarity!
Feb 27, 2020, 3:49 pm
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Since upgrade fees / copays now count towards PQP... do they also earn RDM?
Eg, as Platinum, I get 9x fare paid as RDM. If I buy a $300 ticket and confirm an upgrade / TOD for $300... I get 600 PQP, but do I get 2700 RDM or 5400 RDM?
Eg, as Platinum, I get 9x fare paid as RDM. If I buy a $300 ticket and confirm an upgrade / TOD for $300... I get 600 PQP, but do I get 2700 RDM or 5400 RDM?
Feb 27, 2020, 6:12 pm
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Mar 2, 2020, 8:38 am
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When I purchased a TOD upgrade in January it was accounted for in my account as a Day of Departure Upgrade and did not generate any RDMs.
Mar 2, 2020, 9:27 am
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Mar 2, 2020, 9:39 am
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Mar 2, 2020, 10:03 am
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Paid upgrades should accrue PQP (as of Jan 1); if you have any that haven't, you should contact the MileagePlus Service Center for assistance. They will credit as a separate line item, typically within 24-48 hours of travel.
Mar 2, 2020, 10:39 am
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In my data point of one, I've found it come closer to 48 than 24 hours.
Mar 8, 2020, 7:51 pm
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PQM have re-appeared in my account !
Mar 8, 2020, 8:01 pm
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This happened to someone else recently and I think the consensus was that you are somehow on an old page that still displays this. While PQM is no longer relevant, they appear to still be adding it up on the UA backend systems.
