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New Premier Qualification Requirements for 2020: Only Spend or Spend + Flight Sectors

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tl;dr - PQMs/PQDs/PQS going away, replaced with PQPs. $1 = 1 PQP. See chart below for thresholds:
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New Status Measures
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): Basically the same as PQD. Everything that was a PQD continues to count, plus:



  • Copay component of miles+copay upgrades
  • Paid upgrades (TOD or "sticker-type")
  • Travel on partner airlines on partner stock (awarded as a fraction of the distance, similar to DL)

Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): Same as BIS segments (no class of service bonus) except Basic Economy and award tickets don't count.


PQP Earning on Partners
You can now earn PQP on non-016 tickets when flying eligible partners.

"Preferred" Partners (mostly JV partners): 1/5 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on AC AD AV CA CM EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN.
Others: 1/6 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on other airlines with MP earnings available.

Note: Because all partners earn RDM by distance when not on an 016-ticket, this effectively awards PQP by distance, from 40% in many JV First and Business cabins to 5% in things like LX K.

Preferred partners:

  • Air Canada
  • Air China
  • Air New Zealand
  • All Nippon Airways
  • Austrian Airlines
  • Avianca
  • Azul Brazilian Airlines
  • Brussels Airlines
  • Copa Airlines
  • Eurowings
  • Lufthansa
  • SWISS International Airlines
MileagePlus partners:

  • Aegean Airlines
  • Air Dolomiti
  • Air India
  • Asiana Airlines
  • Croatia Airlines
  • Edelweiss
  • EgyptAir
  • Ethiopian Airlines
  • EVA Air
  • Juneyao Air
  • LOT Polish Airlines
  • Olympic Air
  • SAS
  • Shenzhen Airlines
  • Singapore Airlines
  • South African Airways
  • TAP Air Portugal
  • Thai Airways International
  • Turkish Airlines

Bulk Tickets
Per UA Insider in this post: Yes you will now earn PQP on bulk tickets but not necessarily for the cash value since the price of the ticket is opaque. Bulk tickets will be equal to the award miles you earn for the ticket (excluding Premier bonus miles, if any) divided by 5.

Foreign Addresses
The PQD waiver for foreign MP addresses will no longer apply beginning in 2020.


Credit Card Holders
The PQD waivers and PQM earnings from all Chase cards are ending. Instead, Chase cards allow you to earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 of eligible spend, but only up to the following limits:

1,000 PQP / $24,000: MP Explorer, MP Club, MP Awards, and MP cards, plus their business equivalents (bonus PQP do not count for 1K)
3,000 PQP / $72,000: MP Select and MP Platinum cards
10,000 PQP / $240,000: Presidential Plus and PP Business cards

Existing Flexible PQM (FPQM) on eligible cards will become FPQP at a 5:1 ratio on 01-Apr-20 and will only be applicable through Platinum status.

Originally Posted by UA Insider View Post
United is updating the way MileagePlus members qualify for Premier status in 2020 for the 2021 program year. We recognized that distance was not the best way for us to measure customer loyalty, which is why we are introducing a new qualification structure to better deliver Premier benefits to our most valued customers. In 2020, members will only need to account for two factors to earn status: number of flights taken (Premier Qualifying Flights) and value of tickets purchased (Premier Qualifying Points).

Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): every flight, a takeoff and landing, will count as a PQF except Basic Economy and tickets booked using miles.

Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): 1 PQP = 1 U.S. dollar spent. You will earn PQPs on the base fare of your ticket (no taxes and fees), Economy Plus and Preferred seat purchases, and now on paid upgrades, MileagePlus upgrade award co-pays and credit for Star Alliance partner flights not ticketed or operated by United.

Qualification requirements for 2020
Here’s how members will qualify for each Premier status level starting January 1, 2020 for status in the 2021 program year:



United Cardmembers who are eligible for a PQD waiver, PQM, or Flexible PQM (FPQM) based on annual card spend will be offered new ways to earn Premier qualifying points (PQP) based on annual card spend. The ability to earn a PQD waiver, PQM, or FPQM on these cards will end on December 31, 2019.

Learn more: https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...qualification/
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Old Jan 14, 20, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
It's early January. Travel is dead.
Certainly not on hub-to-hub flights. Flight load on my two TCON flights so far were both full.

Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
I managed to find PZ space on a SFO-EWR flight. Unfortunately it's at 6am on a Wednesday.

I was hoping that due to travel being dead I'd be able to find a $700 P fare (or better yet, a cheap economy ticket with PZ space open) for a Thursday night SFO-EWR flight. But the cheapest I can find is a $1200 Z fare unless I want to fly Wednesday or Saturday morning. So I'm flying on a $119 AS economy fare (earning 5803 miles OW!)

I do have EF alerts for P space on the flights I want so if it opens up I can always cancel the AS flight and get my overnight lie-flat. I'm not too optimistic though.
I have scored a bunch of F upgrades on low-end R fares flying TCON - all before check-in.

I would take the 6am flight. West to east, I always fly as early as possible (short of a red-eye) - you would get in around 2pm or earlier, which would allow you some day light to enjoy in the city.
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Old Jan 14, 20, 11:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17 View Post
Certainly not on hub-to-hub flights. Flight load on my two TCON flights so far were both full.



I have scored a bunch of F upgrades on low-end R fares flying TCON - all before check-in.

I would take the 6am flight. West to east, I always fly as early as possible (short of a red-eye) - you would get in around 2pm or earlier, which would allow you some day light to enjoy in the city.
I neither want to leave on a Wednesday or at 6am I prefer a redeye, Thursday or Friday night.

I will probably not book unless the upgrade is immediately confirmable and the fare is reasonable. I'm pretty much guaranteed a comp upgrade on AS. The product is not real first class but it beats economy. And the miles earning makes the flight essentially free. I'm a lowly platinum so I only have 40 PlusPoints to burn through -- I'm sure I'll get a chance before the year is over.
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Old Jan 15, 20, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17 View Post
Certainly not on hub-to-hub flights. Flight load on my two TCON flights so far were both full.
If anecdotes are useful (they're not), the hub-hub flight I'm on right now is not full.
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Old Jan 15, 20, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by halls120 View Post
I think friend 1 is going for 2MM BIS. Otherwise, there is no rational explanation. He agrees that LH is a better experience than UA TATL and SG is better UA TPAC.
I guess that makes sense, sort of.

I am a million miler on DL and have 500k on united. I can see the allure - the million miler thing looks like it has some advantages. Most in DL only kick in at 2MM + (1MM only nets silver). UA seems friendlier at 1MM. 2MM lifetime is platinum for UA? That would be somewhat helpful.


There are no guarantees though - and they could very easily change the program. Would UA do that? nah......
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Old Jan 15, 20, 10:35 am
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So here's an interesting observation ... I just completed my first flights of the year yesterday.

Ended up paying for a TOD on the return flight. I see PQP's credit right away (as did PQM's prior) for the completed flight, but I don't see them for the TOD upgrade.

Wonder how long those take to credit; guess I'll have to keep an eye on this stuff going forward....
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Old Jan 15, 20, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by dmurphynj View Post
Wonder how long those take to credit; guess I'll have to keep an eye on this stuff going forward....
The reports are that they will credit separately within a day or two, but, yes, absolutely, anybody buying a TOD should create a separate line item for it on their tracking spreadsheet.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
PE on partners is also a sweet spot for EXP qualification, with 150% EQM and 20-22% distance-based EQD.
Sure is! I usually fly one CX HKG-JFK-HKG or HKG-BOS-HKG along with 1-2 AA domestic US flights per year, and that's enough to get me AA gold. AA gold is mostly worthless, but not entirely. And it's good having some sort of backup status on something besides *A just in case, especially when it only takes 2-3 flights.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 3:18 am
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Well, I took my second AA flight in ~20 years RDU-LHR, and boarding groups were strictly enforced, and I mean strictly such as "do not attempt to try and board if your group has not been called". Of course that is down to the individual but I thought it interesting. And if only the same approach had been adopted towards carry-on as we had the usual walks of shame, etc etc. But even though I was BG5 it was ok for o/h space, and main cabin extra was E+ by any other name. I think AA flyers must have better bladder control than UA flyers as there was never a queue for the toilets.

Their version of PE looked exactly the same, as did their version of Polaris. 10 across though is just awful on any airline though.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox View Post
Well, I took my second AA flight in ~20 years RDU-LHR, and boarding groups were strictly enforced, and I mean strictly such as "do not attempt to try and board if your group has not been called".
FWIW, on my fantasy airline, any passenger who tries to board before their boarding group is called is politely handed a new boarding pass in the last boarding group.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by dilanesp View Post
FWIW, on my fantasy airline, any passenger who tries to board before their boarding group is called is politely handed a new boarding pass in the last boarding group.
On my fantasy airline, there’s no advantage to boarding the plane first, because there’s enough space for everyone’s roll-aboards, nobody is allowed to put two items in the overhead (except for bulkhead seats), and passengers in the back are not allowed to use the space in the front just to keep from having to wheel their bag another twenty feet. Then, J/F and Premier flyers can board last.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox View Post
Well, I took my second AA flight in ~20 years RDU-LHR, and boarding groups were strictly enforced, and I mean strictly such as "do not attempt to try and board if your group has not been called". Of course that is down to the individual but I thought it interesting. And if only the same approach had been adopted towards carry-on as we had the usual walks of shame, etc etc. But even though I was BG5 it was ok for o/h space, and main cabin extra was E+ by any other name. I think AA flyers must have better bladder control than UA flyers as there was never a queue for the toilets.

Their version of PE looked exactly the same, as did their version of Polaris. 10 across though is just awful on any airline though.
BG5 in AA is kinda like BG2 in UA.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 12:55 pm
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How in the heck did I miss this article? https://onemileatatime.com/frequent-...ogram-changes/

Has the absolute best quote I have seen from an article assessing the changes to MP for 2020:
Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment here (and this isn’t how I feel, but I don’t think the logic is any worse than what United is using) — I think United should stop awarding miles for tickets booked as part of exclusive corporate contracts.

Let’s look at Apple for example, as United has their biggest corporate contract with them, and Apple employees flying between the Bay Area and Asia exclusively fly United.

United wants to reward their “most loyal” customers, but is someone flying United without choosing to do so actually loyal? It’s like suggesting I’m “loyal” to the IRS because I pay my taxes every year — I have no choice!
I think the author indeed hit the nail on the head. UA will be getting dollars from Apple employees regardless of whether it rewards them or not, because those folks have no choice. But every dollar I threw at UA up until the end of last year was discretionary and my choice.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan View Post
On my fantasy airline, there’s no advantage to boarding the plane first, because there’s enough space for everyone’s roll-aboards, nobody is allowed to put two items in the overhead (except for bulkhead seats), and passengers in the back are not allowed to use the space in the front just to keep from having to wheel their bag another twenty feet. Then, J/F and Premier flyers can board last.
Sounds like NH to me.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 2:38 pm
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As someone who does decide which airline I choose to fly, I have finally worked out my planned strategy. I had indicated I was going to become a free agent and I will in 2021 but for 2020 I will be a very loyal UA customer as I want to use my 1K benefits, which for me is the Plus Points. With that strategy my spend will not be nearly sufficient to make even Platinum. I will be Gold as I am a 1MM. Quite a drop!

Using my spreadsheet UA wants $333.33 for 54 PQF (i.e. $18,000) and my anticipated PQF of 35 is only yielding them $178.11 per PQF.

In 2021 I will fly *A for all my TPAC and TATL flights as I think I have worked out the number of flights I take will get me to the PQF and PQP requirements for 1K. So I will be 1K for the even years (well unless UA changes the rules again but once I no longer have 1K benefits the rule changes will not be such a sore point). I have a couple of *A flights this year which actually brings my PQF tally to 41 with average of $208.14 for the PQD but 4 of the PQF is on SQ in PE and am actually thinking of crediting the miles to a new AS account to get some kind of status on AS for 2021, especially for my domestic flights. I know number of 1K members were going to status match to DL/AA/AS but I want to use the 1K benefits in 2020 that I earned - I am very much a value flyer - best bang for my buck.

I cannot believe I will be the only 1K member who knows they will drop in status in 2021 who is thinking about this approach of rotating even years.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 3:11 pm
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question about pqp:does it accrue if you use vouchers?(for the voucher value?)
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