Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 31616284)
The population of non-opm elites just went down to zero.
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Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 31616362)
I'm not angry about this change. As you note, it's UA's program and they can run it any way they like. That said, it seems odd that they are tilting status towards the short haul domestic customer and away from the long haul international customer, but as noted, it's their airline.
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 31616388)
I would not conclude that in the slightest bit. I have attained DL Plat with MQD of 7,500 but actual out-of-pocket of much less than that (could have gone for Diamond if I really wanted to). With partner flights in-play now, there are ways you can still attain the same tier level as before, but spend way less than before.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly, PQP = EQDs now.
I'm at 47 PQS right now with only $6884 EQD, and 56K EQM. So going by the new qualification criteria I won't even make Gold. Amazing. |
I status matched to DL this year (plat) and should make the challenge to stay plat, so I'll have UA and DL plat through Jan 2021. Even booked a trips on AA and WN coming up. But, honestly, I'm just gonna book the best airline for each trip going forward. It's somewhat freeing to just fly whatever works best.
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Frankly, I'm not at all surprised by these changes and they make sense (IMHO).
The valuable fliers to UA are not so much the ones who make a small number of trips to Singapore and then stack the fare code for the most miles. They aren't generating all that much revenue and earnings for UA and yet have found a way to carve out 1K status. UA's liability to them in future award flights is out-sized compared to the value they bring to the airline. Contrast that with real road warriors who are flying a lot, often on high-priced last minute tickets, yet struggle to reach 100K miles. They are providing far more to UA's bottom line. Very few people are making 120 segments in a year. Yes, there are a small number on here who do but the vast majority of 1Ks who post here are not and many are not really spending $15K is actual dollars (no markups by fare class). Eliminating this 120 segment hurdle is inconsequential for most. In the end, UA wants people who fly them a lot (54 segments is not all that much) and spend a lot ($18K certainly is a lot). That they provide enhanced ways to do this through the *A helps those get there whos travel is largely international. |
Even with OPM, I am trying to figure out how I get to the segments. If I stay with UA, this DEFINITELY makes HPN/LGA a benefit, as EWR only flies direct! :-P
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Originally Posted by JimInOhio
(Post 31616408)
In the end, UA wants people who fly them a lot (54 segments is not all that much) and spend a lot ($18K certainly is a lot). That they provide enhanced ways to do this through the *A helps those get there who's travel is largely international.
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Delta will follow and not lead for a change. In my perverse way of thinking, I am glad to see United leading.
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
(Post 31616421)
I know a ton of people who do 10 or so international J trips a year, spend about 18K or so, and thus do about 40 segments. This KILLS them. They WERE doing that spending on UA...now, I have no idea why they would continue. This seems to be great for the high value consultant, but NOT for the once a month trade show guy/gal who flies up front.
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Originally Posted by joelfreak
(Post 31616421)
but NOT for the once a month trade show guy/gal who flies up front.
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 31616456)
In general, there are few incentives to be loyal if you are flying front all the time.
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Ok, so this is about the new qualification requirements and I realize that they have just been announced. Still, can someone look at this calculation and tell me if it seems about right:
- Flying SQ in PE earns 100% award miles on United? - So, on a EWR-SIN ticket I should be earning about 19000 award miles - 19000 / 6 = 3160 new PQP points? (obviously not buying the ticket through UA). Anything I am missing here? |
Originally Posted by Adelphos
(Post 31616443)
Which international J trips price at that level - I just looked, for next year, EWR to LHR and CDG are pricing $6,000 or more round trip in J
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Well I know changes work differently for each person, but in general this will bode well for me. I am currently at 30K PQM with 120 PQS (and not the PQM threshold). This way I can qualify for 1K a bit faster via spend - my guess is 18 PQP + 54 PQF.
I welcome the culling of 1K ranks. Now for me, what will happen to DL - usually they lead the way to raising spend requirements. |
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