Repooc17

That's the only thing wrong with UCs at EWR? Crowding not an issue for you? And that's a real issue with a lot of UCs these days - everyone and the entire extended family have credit cards and day passes. Some UCs have gotten to the point where often there are no available seats, no food (left), not even some crackers and cheese, loud and obnoxious lounge goers. Sadly, similar scenes at Polaris lounge as well (loud and obnoxious part); probably same kids running around after a stay at Embassy.

Also, stop using plastic cups. Spend some money and get real glassware.

I will say it one more time, both lounge networks are average, and that's being generous. There are good UCs, there are good MLLs; and there are also bad ones. The main reason I have rated MLL higher (by a notch) is due to crowding/noise level, shower availability, and work areas.

Santander

Please elaborate on which hour-long flights AC serves meals on other than breakfast. 500 mile flights are usually cheese plates on AC. ~800 miles is basically the cutoff for meal service on either airline.

FlyerTalker70

Here’s the meal served on my hour long flight to Philly a littler over a week ago In J:


Salmon and vegetable plate. I rest my case

Safe Travels,

James

Santander

Looks like a snack to me.

FlyerTalker70

for comparison my flight in F from ORD to YYZ on CoUniHound:



You can’t tell me that the snack UA provided on this flights holds a candle to my meal on AC. Also note the blatant violation of plating rules on AC: ceramic dish, silverware and glasses are a no no by CoUniHounds rules

-James

dinoscool3

The YYZ transborder is always crowded when I go! The YUL transborder is even worse, IMO. The food is not that great, the lounge is the size of a postage stamp, and the white wine is barely drinkable (the UC house white is better!). The main plus is the tarmac views which are fantastic.

spin88

Unless your husband is under 5"8" or you are looking for a chance to get him back for something, this is sort of a question of "would you like to be shot or hung"

Air Canada is a bottom feeder airline, late all the time, and very uncomfortable in Y. Had you said it was a 777 on AC I - and everyone else would have told you to take UA. The 787 has slightly less effective seat width than a 737, but it also is a wide body, so you can walk around.

Neither airline has decent service, both are bad in Coach. As to UA, the 737-800 is vastly superior to the 737-900ER. Seats are better and it has IFE in most birds. The 737-900 is a really uncomfortable dingy aircraft on UA.

I would probably say (given that you can choose your seats on UA and not on AC) I would go UA 737-800 (if on route) > AC 787 > UA 737-900ER. But as others have said, if your husband is over 5'8" and you are not trying to get him back for something, I would look at either paying for AC PE or UA E+.

canadiancow

Those are two very different products.

AC PY on that route is very similar to what you'd get in UA J on a 4+ hour flight on anything other than a p.s. route.
Hot meal with two options, free drinks/snacks, 38 inch pitch, 19 inch width, 7 inch recline.

UA E+ is the equivalent of an AC preferred seat.
34 inch pitch, ~17 inch width, 3 inch recline.

I've seen too many posts on both AC and UA forums asking why AC PY is hundreds of dollars more than Y, when UA E+ is only $50 more than UA Y, and just want to ensure that's clarified.

One benefit of choosing AC is that you may find a very cheap PY LMU at check-in (I think the lowest I've heard is a bit under $150 for that route), but you can also get no offer and end up stuck in Y.

JimInOhio

True. By the same token, you can end up in UA F for less than AC PY. Who’s to say?

FlyerTalker70

Not true. Per SeatGuru the seating config for the UA flight is 37 inches in E+:




Meanwhile at AC the PY seat pitch is 38 inches in PY.




I think the argument here is actually why bother paying $200 USD upgrading from Y to PY on AC during check-in when UA regularly has similarly priced upgrades from Y to F. That being said, I suspect there is more PY inventory on AC than there is F to say nothing of J on that bird. You are correct in saying that there is a difference between E+ on UA and PY on AC, namely it's a 2-3-2 configuration versus 3-3 on the narrow body so fewer neighbours. The addition of the hot meal is also a key difference, since UA has yet to implement hot meals in E+ on this route (they have on p.s. routes like EWR <-> SFO)

Safe Travels,

James

findark

738 seat pitch on UA is 34" in E+ after slimlining. You're looking at the old configuration which ends at row 37.

canadiancow

My apologies for grabbing my data from AC and UA's own websites.

JimInOhio

Everything I see on united.com is showing 34” for 738 E+.

canadiancow

Which is what I said

mahasamatman

SeatGuru is a shadow of its formal self and contains a lot of obsolete and outright false information.