UA can't book a reasonably priced cnxn on Star Alliance partners, but Orbitz can?
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UA can't book a reasonably priced cnxn on Star Alliance partners, but Orbitz can?
OK, it happened to me again on this trip to Greece--I tried to book a ticket SEA-SFO-ZRH (on UA) with a connecting flight ZRH-SKG on Swiss. Return route in reverse. To book that on UA the fares were in the $3K plus range, but to book the same ticket on Orbitz was in the $1300 range. United 1K desk couldn't do any better than the $3K range. So I booked separate flights on US and on Swiss, but of course if there's a cancellation then you're not protected like you would be if you booked it all as one itinerary. So, why can Orbitz do that for me, but United can't? And is there a work around with UA that I should know to ask for? Thanks! And while I'm asking, is there a way to book GPU upgradeable fares through Orbitz? Can I ask for a W fare and apply a GPU after ticketing?
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OK, it happened to me again on this trip to Greece--I tried to book a ticket SEA-SFO-ZRH (on UA) with a connecting flight ZRH-SKG on Swiss. Return route in reverse. To book that on UA the fares were in the $3K plus range, but to book the same ticket on Orbitz was in the $1300 range. United 1K desk couldn't do any better than the $3K range. So I booked separate flights on US and on Swiss, but of course if there's a cancellation then you're not protected like you would be if you booked it all as one itinerary. So, why can Orbitz do that for me, but United can't? ...
What ticket stock is Orbitz using?
What are the fare classes for the UA ticket? For the Orbitz ticket?
Also might be a fare combinability issue. Are trying to force a minimum fare on UA (for GPUs?)
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those are more details than I know, or want to try and manage in my brain. I guess my high level bemusement is, shouldn't Star Alliance partners be able to be as flexible and compatible with each other, as a 3rd party is? I know, probably a silly question.
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However, without those details, it not possible to be conclusive.
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I've personally experienced multiple occasions where united.com wouldn't fare a ticket with a partner segment correctly, but Expedia could. Booking through Expedia resulted in a 016 ticket with the credit card charge coming from United. Received full PQDs.
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You can book GPU-able fares through OTAs that UA.dumb or over the phone won’t price correctly. With ITA you can set the TATL booking class to W and then use the punch out that some folks here have developed to e.g. purchase from Princeline.
I have done that sucessfully recently for a colleague.
I have done that sucessfully recently for a colleague.
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Just keep in mind that UA is not in business to sell you the cheapest possible ticket. It is in business to make money, and has many effective tools for doing just that.
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I'm not quite clear on what OP booked on Orbitz. Did he get separate tickets or all flights on a single ticket? UA has cheap fares on SEA-ZRH, but these definitely have end-on-end fare combination restrictions which you can find in the fare rules --
"END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED"
This means these fares cannot be combined with other fares on a single ticket no matter who you book it through. The only way to combine them with fares to other destinations is by booking on separate tickets. In order to get all flights on single ticket, you either have to upfare to fares that allows end-on-end fare combinations, or book all segments on a single through fare.
"END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED"
This means these fares cannot be combined with other fares on a single ticket no matter who you book it through. The only way to combine them with fares to other destinations is by booking on separate tickets. In order to get all flights on single ticket, you either have to upfare to fares that allows end-on-end fare combinations, or book all segments on a single through fare.
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I'm not quite clear on what OP booked on Orbitz. Did he get separate tickets or all flights on a single ticket? UA has cheap fares on SEA-ZRH, but these definitely have end-on-end fare combination restrictions which you can find in the fare rules --
"END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED"
This means these fares cannot be combined with other fares on a single ticket no matter who you book it through. The only way to combine them with fares to other destinations is by booking on separate tickets. In order to get all flights on single ticket, you either have to upfare to fares that allows end-on-end fare combinations, or book all segments on a single through fare.
"END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED"
This means these fares cannot be combined with other fares on a single ticket no matter who you book it through. The only way to combine them with fares to other destinations is by booking on separate tickets. In order to get all flights on single ticket, you either have to upfare to fares that allows end-on-end fare combinations, or book all segments on a single through fare.
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I recently ran into a similar situation. Expedia gave us a roundtrip itinerary from Houston to Rome with UA and AC segments for a good price. I could not price the itinerary the same way on either the United or Air Canada websites (which priced almost double), but Expedia gave it and ticketed it just fine. We saved quite a bit of money doing it this way, and I still got all the PQDs (ticket was 016 and first segments were AC). It was for premium economy so don't know if that has anything to do with it.
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I recently ran into a similar situation. Expedia gave us a roundtrip itinerary from Houston to Rome with UA and AC segments for a good price. I could not price the itinerary the same way on either the United or Air Canada websites... but Expedia gave it and ticketed it just fine.
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What dates? Without that, it's just a guess as to why you can't buy this ticket on UA.
Looking at some random dates (eg, out Sept 18, Back Oct 2), UA will sell you these flights for $1333 (even less in Basic Economy), priced as a single SEA-SKG "T" fare so no issues with combinability/end-on-end /etc as these only apply when trying to mix fares together.
Looking at some random dates (eg, out Sept 18, Back Oct 2), UA will sell you these flights for $1333 (even less in Basic Economy), priced as a single SEA-SKG "T" fare so no issues with combinability/end-on-end /etc as these only apply when trying to mix fares together.