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Travel Waiver: SFO closing runway (28L), 7- 19 Sept 2019, 28L has reopened

Travel Waiver: SFO closing runway (28L), 7- 19 Sept 2019, 28L has reopened

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UA's San Francisco airport construction notice
San Francisco airport construction
The San Francisco International Airport (SFO) will close a major runway for repairs from September 7Ė26, and we expect itíll cause flight cancellations and delays. We want to help, so we removed some flights from our schedule and rebooked customers to help reduce any disruptions to their travel plans.

Weíre also offering a travel waiver that gives you flexibility to change your flight or connect in a different city. We will continue to work with other airports to rebook connecting customers through those cities while the airport runway is closed.

We recommend changing your flight or allowing more time to get to and from your destination. If thatís not possible, make sure youíre checking your flight status before you head to the airport.

The airportís AirTrain will also be periodically closed at night due to AirTrain construction, so we recommend allowing extra time to get around the airport if youíre traveling in the evening and use the AirTrain to get between terminals. You can find more information on the San Francisco International Airport website.
20-Day Closure of Runway 28L at SFO Set to Begin on September 7th

Airlines implement voluntary flight schedule adjustments to reduce delays

SAN FRANCISCO - August 7, 2019 Ė the San Francisco International Airport (SFO) is set to close Runway 28L on September 7, 2019, for 20 days to construct a new base layer below the runway surface. The runway is expected to reopen on Friday, September 27, 2019.

Because the closure will reduce the Airportís overall runway capacity, SFO advises travelers to expect delays during this period. Airlines have collaborated with SFO to voluntarily reduce their flight schedules to lessen the length of delays. When combined with reductions from other non-airline flight operations, total flights at SFO have been reduced by 13% during the 20 days of the runway 28L closure. Airlines have also re-timed certain flights to reduce demand during peak periods.

With the voluntary schedule adjustments in place, flight delays are expected to average 30-45 minutes, with some flights experiencing maximum delays of approximately 2 hours. SFO recommends that travelers opt for early morning flights before 9:00 a.m. PDT during this period, as delays are expected to begin after 9:00 a.m. PDT each day during the closure, and continue for the remainder of the day. Both domestic and international flights may be affected by this activity, with short-haul flights being most affected. The period of Wednesday through Friday will see the largest amount of flight activity, and thus the most potential for delays.

The closure is being conducted to construct a new base for Runway 28L, one of two runways used primarily for arriving flights, in the area where it intersects with Runway 1L and 1R, which are primarily used for departing flights. These runway intersections are the most heavily-traveled areas of the entire runway system at SFO, with more than 68% of all flights crossing these intersections.

The total length of Runway 28L is 11,381 feet. The project will reconstruct a 1,900-foot section of Runway 28L, replace lighting and drainage infrastructure, and overlay a 600-foot section of Runway 1L.SFO repaved the entire top layer of Runway 28L in spring 2017. During this project, core sampling and ground-penetrating radar indicated that the base layer was showing signs of fatigue cracking due to a large amount of aircraft activity in this area. This issue required additional investigation and engineering that could not be addressed at that time. SFO staff have evaluated multiple options and concluded that the best long-term solution is to excavate the section of Runway 28L at the intersection of Runway 1L and 1R to reconstruct the pavement structure, comprised of a cementitious aggregate base and a top asphalt surface.

With input from airlines at SFO, the project team selected September 7-27, 2019 for the closure to avoid the busy summer and year-end holiday travel seasons. This timeframe was also chosen for the low probability of precipitation, as dry weather is necessary for asphalt paving.

The contract for the Runway 28L Reconstruction project was awarded to Golden Gate Constructors. The project is federally-funded, and the total project cost is expected to be $16.2 million.
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Old Aug 26, 19, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
The 9AMreference may come from here, 20-Day Closure of Runway 28L at SFO Set to Begin on September 7th (and in the wiki)
And this:
Delay programs are expected to begin every day by 9:00 a.m.
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I'd expect that the impact of the construction would be very similar to that of low ceilings.
Yes very similar, single runway will presumably cut acceptance rate from 60 to 30 per hour.
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There's now a travel waiver in place. Just received this email from United:
We're not going to let runway repairs at SFO slow you down

We have a hard hat heads-up for you:

From September 7Ė26, our friends at San Francisco International Airport (SFO) will have a major runway closed for repairs. This could lead to delays, but we're here to help!

If your plans are flexible, you might want to consider flying a day earlier or later or connecting in a different city. The good news is that we'll waive the change fee. Visit united.com or use the United app to check your flight status and find more information about your options on our Important Notices page.

Thanks for packing a little extra patience!
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Curious

While I have an inbound to SFO that departs LAX at 8 AM. Based on the advice Ive received here I should be all right inbound..

How are departures handled?? I'm on the nonstop to HKG, then only have a 75 minute connection in HKG for for further travel in Asia on Dragon air.. Will departures be affected, or just arrivals?
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine View Post
While I have an inbound to SFO that departs LAX at 8 AM. Based on the advice Ive received here I should be all right inbound..

How are departures handled?? I'm on the nonstop to HKG, then only have a 75 minute connection in HKG for for further travel in Asia on Dragon air.. Will departures be affected, or just arrivals?
Generally speaking, departures are not significantly affected although long-haul flights which require the 28s to depart may be impacted. They deal with the capacity drop primarily by metering arrivals, hence the lessened impact on departures. Hard to say on specific flights until we see it play out, but it should be very similar to normal fog delays where int'l flights are rarely impacted.
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Old Aug 26, 19, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine View Post
How are departures handled?? I'm on the nonstop to HKG, then only have a 75 minute connection in HKG for for further travel in Asia on Dragon air.. Will departures be affected, or just arrivals?
Yeah it's likely international departures will be impacted. The widebodies typically use 28L/R for departures due to runway length, so that's going to be an issue.

If you miss, UA will likely rebook you on next KA flight. HKG ground staff is pretty good about pro-active rebooking.
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Generally speaking, departures are not significantly affected although long-haul flights which require the 28s to depart may be impacted. They deal with the capacity drop primarily by metering arrivals, hence the lessened impact on departures.
With one runway out entirely, I think there will be an impact. You can't park the widebody on R and let it take off in between arrivals on L (or vice-versa).
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Yeah it's likely international departures will be impacted. The widebodies typically use 28L/R for departures due to runway length, so that's going to be an issue.

If you miss, UA will likely rebook you on next KA flight. HKG ground staff is pretty good about pro-active rebooking.
I'm connecting at SFO to TPE from DEN. You think I'll be ok? I think I have 1 hour 4 minutes to connect at SFO.
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I'm connecting at SFO to TPE from DEN. You think I'll be ok? I think I have 1 hour 4 minutes to connect at SFO.
I think anyone connecting to international long-haul at SFO during the construction would be well-advised to book a minimum of 2 hours, and 3 would be even better.
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I think anyone connecting to international long-haul at SFO during the construction would be well-advised to book a minimum of 2 hours, and 3 would be even better.
It's too late because I booked my flight long before the advisory came out. Now I don't know what to do other than to change the flight date. I'm ok waiting as long as I can get on that flight at SFO to TPE.
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine View Post
While I have an inbound to SFO that departs LAX at 8 AM. Based on the advice Ive received here I should be all right inbound..

How are departures handled?? I'm on the nonstop to HKG, then only have a 75 minute connection in HKG for for further travel in Asia on Dragon air.. Will departures be affected, or just arrivals?
Iím in a similar boat: 8am departure from LAX-SFO on 9/12, connecting to HKG, with confirmed upgrades on both legs. I donít really want to switch to the 6:30am, since I have a meeting the night before and will not be home until late. But I canít miss the flight to HKG... What to do???
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
With one runway out entirely, I think there will be an impact. You can't park the widebody on R and let it take off in between arrivals on L (or vice-versa).
Now that I think about it, that's probably right. Even in dense WX they can still land single file on 28R and get the departures out on 28L, but with the runway actually closed it will be much tighter.
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It's too late because I booked my flight long before the advisory came out. Now I don't know what to do other than to change the flight date. I'm ok waiting as long as I can get on that flight at SFO to TPE.
Change to an earlier flight from DEN on the same day, there are three early flights -- about 2 houtrs apart,
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Anyone know when the peak times are for SFO during the weekdays? Presumably flights during these times will see the biggest impact?
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Change to an earlier flight from DEN on the same day, there are three early flights -- about 2 houtrs apart,
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm actually doing YVR-DEN-SFO-TPE.
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Anyone know when the peak times are for SFO during the weekdays?
About the same as weekends and 9AM to 9PM pretty well covers it (the peak is probably late morning). The news release does state
The period of Wednesday through Friday will see the largest amount of flight activity, and thus the most potential for delays.
But the weekend, weekday differences are small especially for Sunday, Saturday PM is the slowest period.
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Originally Posted by lsquare View Post
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm actually doing YVR-DEN-SFO-TPE.
Skip DEN (if on a UA ticket), get a change to YVR-SFO-TPE
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