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GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
  • First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
  • First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
  • Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
  • Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
  • First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2019

If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
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Originally Posted by jp12687
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link

You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 10:29 am
  #331  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
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Originally Posted by drklain
Great test case. What’s your three year UA PQD spend?
2017 - 9k UA, 17k total
2018 - 22k UA, 44k total
2019 - 50.2k UA, 72k total

2019 61 cents/BIS
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 11:06 am
  #332  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Well you definitely don’t meet the theorized $100K trailing total but do barely exceed the $50 K threshold for this year. I’d say you are in the “likely to probably” category.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 11:17 am
  #333  
 
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Originally Posted by drklain
Well you definitely don’t meet the theorized $100K trailing total but do barely exceed the $50 K threshold for this year. I’d say you are in the “likely to probably” category.
My hope is it gets tipped by manual review if it falls into the maybe bucket. 80% of my UA PQM are from September on, while most of the non-UA is earlier in the year.

If not this year, definitely next. Already 30k UQ PQD booked in Q1 of 2020.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 3:42 pm
  #334  
 
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Originally Posted by DENflyer3
Does UAL still do soft landings as I will not have the miles to even make 1k
I know two folks who dropped from GS to 1K for 2019; they had plenty of PQD (in the 20-30k range) but short on miles. Email from United indicating the courtesy 1K status, complete with associated instrument deposits.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by jnb_tx
I know two folks who dropped from GS to 1K for 2019; they had plenty of PQD (in the 20-30k range) but short on miles. Email from United indicating the courtesy 1K status, complete with associated instrument deposits.
New MP program targeted at folks like this...
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 9:51 pm
  #336  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Originally Posted by DENflyer3
Not sure how I am going to do this year, I should finish about the following:

$36,500, but only about 80k in miles flown and barely 60 segments. I am hoping that they really weigh the cost of all my tickets this year. I was at about $38k last year and re-qualified with about 130 segments and 120k miles. I've been GS now for 5 years.

Any thoughts?
You're a 'tweener'. 18K above the 1K threshold and 15K below GS threshold. You're squarely a 1K next year and in the new program.
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Old Nov 23, 2019, 11:08 am
  #337  
 
Join Date: May 2017
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Just landed in Houston from SYD, one more leg to CMH to finish the trip:

PQD: $73,485
PQS: 104

I have about $1,000 more in UA travel to go this year. Hoping to requalify in the first wave this year.
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Old Nov 23, 2019, 4:35 pm
  #338  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Originally Posted by drklain
Did you have to wait until January to get the call or did you get it in December after your last flight of the year?
Sometime between Christmas and New Years.
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Old Nov 23, 2019, 4:37 pm
  #339  
 
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Originally Posted by bloller
Sometime between Christmas and New Years.
I need those $1800 PQD from December 31...maybe
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Old Nov 23, 2019, 4:47 pm
  #340  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Done for the year:

PQD: $70,140
PQM: 207,411
PQS: 44.5

All Intl Business on UA.
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 10:30 am
  #341  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Barring unexpected travel, will end 2019 at 63,295 on 016 stock, 59,247 on UA metal. That's down from over 100K on UA metal in both 2017 and 2018, but I'm hoping I'll make it since I'm still well over 50K and with a good recent and long-term history (10+ consecutive years as GS).
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 10:44 am
  #342  
 
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Originally Posted by st530
Barring unexpected travel, will end 2019 at 63,295 on 016 stock, 59,247 on UA metal. That's down from over 100K on UA metal in both 2017 and 2018, but I'm hoping I'll make it since I'm still well over 50K and with a good recent and long-term history (10+ consecutive years as GS).
If you don't make it, the rest of us are in REAL trouble! 59k on UA mental and 260k last three years? This should be golden!
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 1:39 pm
  #343  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Francisco, California
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Originally Posted by mattg85
Yes it's around the $60k mark on UA metal now and will be over $70k by the end of the year
I think he will safely slide into home base for 2020.

Wd had some people that didn't even hit 100k miles but all had >$55k spend and received GS. I think he should feel confident.
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 2:58 pm
  #344  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Mileage Plus GS, Marriott/SPG Platinum, Hilton Diamond, ITC Platinum
Posts: 30
Looks like this year will be (roughly):

PQD: $49,500
PQM: 175,000
PQS: 73

Trailing 3 year spend: $150,000

Flying out of EWR
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 3:04 pm
  #345  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
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“Trailing three year trend” has replaced “cpm” as a qualifying metric, correct? And specualtion as to the date of first requalifications? Der Tag?
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