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Old Jul 19, 2019, 4:03 pm
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Also remember my understanding is (and maybe i’m Wrong) but that is fare class priority— but GS will clear into a buck that opens— so you could be on a Y fare and a GS could be on a W fare and theoretically the GS will clear first
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
If a flight segment is not offering PP, then no (O/A/R). But if other segments are offering PP, then you can get a PP fare but your non-PP segments will be B fare (at least on UA operated flights)
With the caveat that you can't buy a cheap R fare on a transoceanic flight that doesn't have a PE cabin, hoping to end up in B and have a high upgrade chance. The PE cabin has to exist on at least one of the legs.

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Also remember my understanding is (and maybe i’m Wrong) but that is fare class priority— but GS will clear into a buck that opens— so you could be on a Y fare and a GS could be on a W fare and theoretically the GS will clear first
There are a lot of nuances, but, yes, in general, cabin (PE vs Y) comes first, then status, and then fare class. However, of those, cabin / fare class are the only ones that someone can easily control.
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
With the caveat that you can't buy a cheap R fare on a transoceanic flight that doesn't have a PE cabin, hoping to end up in B and have a high upgrade chance. The PE cabin has to exist on at least one of the legs.


There are a lot of nuances, but, yes, in general, cabin (PE vs Y) comes first, then status, and then fare class. However, of those, cabin / fare class are the only ones that someone can easily control.
A GS one y would still clear before a silver on PE though right? Due to clearing to a different fare class?
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 5:08 pm
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A GS one y would still clear before a silver on PE though right? Due to clearing to a different fare class?
Prior to the day of departure, anyone on a GS instrument would have PN access, yes. On the day of departure, it's not clear, but I suspect that it would still work the same way. GS can get funky because it's not a published status level so it sometimes gets left out of the documentation.
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
If a flight segment is not offering PP, then no (O/A/R). But if other segments are offering PP, then you can get a PP fare but your non-PP segments will be B fare (at least on UA operated flights)

This is causing even more headaches

I applied a GPU and then on the DOMESTIC legs PN >1 and my upgrade didn't clear (YBM instant up) until I had them remove the GPU from that leg

Evidently the computer isn't smart enough to figure out that if you are eligible for a normal CPU, a YBM instant up and a GPU upgrade which one takes PN bucket and which one takes PZ bucket and apply whichever one opens first (I realize this will 99.999999% of the time be PN) so i went thru and had them remove the GPU from all my domestic YBM fares.

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A GS one y would still clear before a silver on PE though right? Due to clearing to a different fare class?
Talking battlefield here - not 2 weeks prior when PN >1 etc
No, a Silver on an R fare with a GPU will clear to Polaris Business before a GS on a Y fare with a GPU - That GS may even get the Silvers seat in PE

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Old Jul 19, 2019, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Hipplewm
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Evidently the computer isn't smart enough to figure out that if you are eligible for a normal CPU, a YBM instant up and a GPU upgrade which one takes PN bucket and which one takes PZ bucket and apply whichever one opens first (I realize this will 99.999999% of the time be PN) so i went thru and had them remove the GPU from all my domestic YBM fares....
Correct an issue for 1Ks, more in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...does-work.html
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by Hipplewm
I applied a GPU and then on the DOMESTIC legs PN >1 and my upgrade didn't clear (YBM instant up) until I had them remove the GPU from that leg

Evidently the computer isn't smart enough to figure out that if you are eligible for a normal CPU, a YBM instant up and a GPU upgrade which one takes PN bucket and which one takes PZ bucket and apply whichever one opens first (I realize this will 99.999999% of the time be PN) so i went thru and had them remove the GPU from all my domestic YBM fares.
Yes, that is the standard advice here, don't apply the instrument to the domestic segment.
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