UA drops GUM-HKG
There go my HNL layovers 
Jun 27, 2019, 6:43 pm
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Jun 27, 2019, 6:45 pm
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I was upset when they cut PVG-GUM last year as it made a good weekend getaway when I felt like getting a taste of the states. I always felt at least I could utilize the HKG routing to get to Guam but it looks like UA has decided that Chinese don’t want to go to GUM. A real shame and likely not that great for the Guamanian economy with UA cutting back and DL gone.
Jun 27, 2019, 7:35 pm
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Jun 27, 2019, 8:28 pm
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sad to see the route go. it was a cheap way to fly the island hopper, and also allowed a late departure from HKG. at least the additional HKG-SFO frequency is in the evening.
Jun 27, 2019, 8:59 pm
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It has already been said that half of HKG market is Guangdong, and half of HKG-GUM continues to HNL. So this cut gives the entire HKG-Hawaii market to foreign carriers, unless the NH JV can carry this traffic.
And for MP members in Asia, no more HKG-SPN four-segment UA metal run!
And for MP members in Asia, no more HKG-SPN four-segment UA metal run!
Jun 27, 2019, 9:21 pm
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Does UA still consider GUM a hub/focus city?
While it is very sad to see another unique inter-Asia flight getting cut, I never really understood the strange state of the GUM airport in UA's network.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that UA flies to multiple cities in Asia, but I just wish they'd offer at least one GUM <-> UA hub direct flight.
IMO, it would make more sense to move most of their GUM-Asia flights to HNL and turn HNL into a mini hub.
EDIT: looks like UA does still consider GUM as a hub:
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...port/maps.html
While it is very sad to see another unique inter-Asia flight getting cut, I never really understood the strange state of the GUM airport in UA's network.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that UA flies to multiple cities in Asia, but I just wish they'd offer at least one GUM <-> UA hub direct flight.
IMO, it would make more sense to move most of their GUM-Asia flights to HNL and turn HNL into a mini hub.
EDIT: looks like UA does still consider GUM as a hub:
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...port/maps.html
Jun 27, 2019, 10:13 pm
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UA gives https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...hong-kong.html
UA takes away GUM<>HKG
UA takes away GUM<>HKG
Jun 27, 2019, 10:50 pm
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Does UA still consider GUM a hub/focus city?
While it is very sad to see another unique inter-Asia flight getting cut, I never really understood the strange state of the GUM airport in UA's network.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that UA flies to multiple cities in Asia, but I just wish they'd offer at least one GUM <-> UA hub direct flight.
IMO, it would make more sense to move most of their GUM-Asia flights to HNL and turn HNL into a mini hub.
EDIT: looks like UA does still consider GUM as a hub:
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...port/maps.html
While it is very sad to see another unique inter-Asia flight getting cut, I never really understood the strange state of the GUM airport in UA's network.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that UA flies to multiple cities in Asia, but I just wish they'd offer at least one GUM <-> UA hub direct flight.
IMO, it would make more sense to move most of their GUM-Asia flights to HNL and turn HNL into a mini hub.
EDIT: looks like UA does still consider GUM as a hub:
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...port/maps.html
Shifting GUM-Asia flights to HNL-Asia make no sense whatsoever, there are plenty of Asian carriers had already been flying those routes for years, JL, NH, CI, OZ, KE, PR, CA, MU, QF, NZ, then Asia LCC Jin Air, Air Asia, Jetstar, not to mention HA, some even have multiple flights daily, UA will fail miserably to compete direct at those airlines. no narrowbodies has range to fly HNL-Asia nonstop neither, so why would UA send multiple widebodies just to fly HNL-Asia consider all of them are tourist low yield routes ? Sending the crappy 77G to do all that ?
Jun 28, 2019, 12:02 am
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This route is more than just "historical" (nearly 3 decades). As many on Guam know, a former CO/IAH executive became a CS/GUM executive and became a UA/HKG executive. He married a Guam news anchor who is now anchoring for HKTVB Pearl. She's going to miss this non-rev ride home.
Jun 28, 2019, 6:55 am
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How much longer until GUM gets the full CLE treatment?
Seems like it's in a slow death cycle with route after route bring cut.
Seems like it's in a slow death cycle with route after route bring cut.
Jun 28, 2019, 7:42 am
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Jun 28, 2019, 8:56 am
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Remaining are 10 destinations, including zero additions in the past decade: Chuuk, Fukuoka, Honolulu, Koror, Manila, Nagoya, Osaka, Saipan, Tokyo, and Yap.
Sure seems like GUM is being slowly killed off.
Last edited by ctownflyer; Jun 28, 2019 at 9:04 am