UA Adds Second Daily Nonstop Service between SFO-HKG (back to daily till 28 Mar 2020)
Dec 11, 19, 6:04 am - Wikipost
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Dec 7, 19, 12:38 am
#346
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco/Sydney
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Tonights HKG-SFO is old config, and currently showing 31/50 with only 8 non-revs on the upgrade list.
My upgraded cleared about 10 days ago when the seat map was showing only about 15 seats taken.
My upgraded cleared about 10 days ago when the seat map was showing only about 15 seats taken.
Dec 7, 19, 2:29 am
#347
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: YEG
Programs: AC
Posts: 781
Upgrade to business cleared right away for a flight in January. Still showing 9 spots available for upgrade and the plane seems pretty empty. Old configuration showing. Maybe I will get lucky and it will change.
Dec 7, 19, 8:22 am
#348
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: YEG
Programs: AC
Posts: 781
Originally Posted by canforce
Upgrade to business cleared right away for a flight in January. Still showing 9 spots available for upgrade and the plane seems pretty empty. Old configuration showing. Maybe I will get lucky and it will change.
Dec 7, 19, 8:41 am
#349
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM 1K
Posts: 2,881
Originally Posted by helvetic
Not including the lower part of the bay area is disingenuous. Most of San Jose's travel demand goes out of SFO. If you take the whole bay area, at almost 10 million population, it's the 3rd largest metro area in the US.
Exactly what I meant.
Exactly what I meant.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...tistical_areas
Dec 7, 19, 8:59 am
#350
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
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Originally Posted by JimInOhio
Where are you getting these population figures? 10 million? I see 6.7 million (combined SF/Oakland and San Jose metro areas)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...tistical_areas
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...tistical_areas
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA 2018 estimate is 9,666,055.
Dec 7, 19, 12:28 pm
#351
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: SFO
Posts: 1,113
PP is being sold in late January again. So they gave up on the pmCO equipment?
Dec 7, 19, 1:21 pm
#352
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: NYC
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Posts: 206
Originally Posted by GoSh4rks
PP is being sold in late January again. So they gave up on the pmCO equipment?
Dec 7, 19, 1:34 pm
#353
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Originally Posted by GoSh4rks
PP is being sold in late January again.
My December 26 flight is still old J.
Originally Posted by GoSh4rks
So they gave up on the pmCO equipment?
Dec 7, 19, 2:25 pm
#354
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Anywhere but home
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Just reappeared today. Was not there last night.
Dec 7, 19, 5:36 pm
#355
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: United 1K
Posts: 2,040
Originally Posted by docbert
Tonights HKG-SFO is old config, and currently showing 31/50 with only 8 non-revs on the upgrade list.
My upgraded cleared about 10 days ago when the seat map was showing only about 15 seats taken.
My upgraded cleared about 10 days ago when the seat map was showing only about 15 seats taken.
my AM SFO flight next week is only about half full up front, so I am bracing for old seats.
example - tomorrows EWR outbound is pretty full and has new. As are both SFO.
Then again, Monday’s flights seem to have no pattern
Btw it’s hard to tell what they’re doing with PP seats in advance. I hadn’t noticed the seat map they’re using is vague about rows 20-22. Most are “full” in those seats but a few show empty seats
Dec 7, 19, 6:38 pm
#356
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by helvetic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_...atistical_Area
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA 2018 estimate is 9,666,055.
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA 2018 estimate is 9,666,055.
But I think the bigger point is not just the number of people, but that so many industries with a lot of international J travel are in the Bay Area (and also up in Sacramento) all of which are tightly tied to Asian and also European (and now Isreali) high tech and medical industries.
Dec 7, 19, 8:08 pm
#357
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: United 1K
Posts: 2,040
Originally Posted by hscottm
Btw it’s hard to tell what they’re doing with PP seats in advance. I hadn’t noticed the seat map they’re using is vague about rows 20-22. Most are “full” in those seats but a few show empty seats
how have they been dealing with the PP section on flights where a 772 with PP is dispatched? It’s not sold so it’s not showing up on the upgrade list screen (as “upgraded to PP”)
Are they just moving up people to PP “for free” even though it would otherwise cost 30 plus points? That’s actually not so bad.
Dec 7, 19, 8:13 pm
#358
Join Date: May 2015
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Originally Posted by hscottm
how have they been dealing with the PP section on flights where a 772 with PP is dispatched?
Dec 8, 19, 12:40 am
#359
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
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Originally Posted by spin88
While that figure is not the one IMHO to use if you are talking domestic flights (as SMF, OAK, SJC all pull substantial traffic), for international flights to Asia, you can probably throw another 2.2 million people onto that number, all in the Sacramento MSA. Going to Europe, connecting is usually easier, although some will make the treck to SFO, but going to Asia, SFO is the easiest jumping off point, the only other real options are a flight to SEA and connect there.
But I think the bigger point is not just the number of people, but that so many industries with a lot of international J travel are in the Bay Area (and also up in Sacramento) all of which are tightly tied to Asian and also European (and now Isreali) high tech and medical industries.
But I think the bigger point is not just the number of people, but that so many industries with a lot of international J travel are in the Bay Area (and also up in Sacramento) all of which are tightly tied to Asian and also European (and now Isreali) high tech and medical industries.
Dec 9, 19, 12:01 pm
#360
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: United 1K
Posts: 2,040
I'm on the early (#869) flight SFO-HKG on Wednesday, and the seat maps have been showing light J loads for a while (its about 50% full).
Given the current "feature" of seeing the upgrade list early, I was shocked to see there were also currently ZERO people listed for upgrades as of this morning. I checked back a little while ago and there are three now. Still surprised given this route, but then again, its midweek.
All of this made me pretty surprised I won the lottery (for the time being) about getting an updated 772 for the flight. But the AM flight has seemed like a consistent winner in this lottery for the last week.
Given the current "feature" of seeing the upgrade list early, I was shocked to see there were also currently ZERO people listed for upgrades as of this morning. I checked back a little while ago and there are three now. Still surprised given this route, but then again, its midweek.
All of this made me pretty surprised I won the lottery (for the time being) about getting an updated 772 for the flight. But the AM flight has seemed like a consistent winner in this lottery for the last week.
