UA627 N26123 DEN-EWR "hard landing"@ EWR, runway disembarkment - 15 June 2019
Jul 1, 2019, 10:00 am
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I doubt this ship will be directly replaced. UA is coping with the loss of one frame, and this is mitigated by the greatly increased availability of 777s now that both India flights are suspended.
Parts from #3123 will be used to support the in-service fleet.
Parts from #3123 will be used to support the in-service fleet.
Jul 1, 2019, 11:30 am
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Jul 1, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Jul 1, 2019, 12:29 pm
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe some of the UTAir 762s are actually the former CO aircraft.
Jul 1, 2019, 3:12 pm
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As for gas guzzler, I'm not sure what the actual numbers were, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be profitable with a decent cargo load.
Still was one great ride... economics aside, as a passenger, there was no better ride in the fleet.
Jul 1, 2019, 4:22 pm
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Jul 1, 2019, 7:59 pm
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What actually transpired here remains to be seen, but it’s clear the airframe was stressed beyond its limits, resulting in fuselage deformation in several places.
Jul 1, 2019, 8:48 pm
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Rumor has it the airplane bounced. If you bounce once, especially if the bounce is high, there’s a correct way to manage the situation without compounding an error (starting with a go-around, if practicable). A worst-case scenario is the SSJ in Moscow a few weeks ago, where the airplane comes back down onto the pavement with multiple g-forces, leading to structural failure.
What actually transpired here remains to be seen, but it’s clear the airframe was stressed beyond its limits, resulting in fuselage deformation in several places.
On approach we turned downwind south of EWR on a northwest heading and then turned base and final. Final was straight down the Hudson and we got wonderful views of Manhattan, flew right over TEB, and MetLife Stadium. The approach was the same as other 22L/22R approaches I have experienced, there was nothing abnormal. I was looking out the window from about 15 min prior to landing until we touched down.
We crossed the threshold and I noticed that RWY 11 was closed. We touched down on RWY 22L shortly after the RWY 11 intersection, probably closer to the Mike intersection. When the main gear touched we bounced (I have been on aircraft that have bounced before and that felt mostly normal for a bounce), I believe, we then touched and bounced a second time, then on the final impact it felt more like a thud, I do not know if the nose gear or main gear hit first on the final impact. I heard what appeared to be glass breaking in the galley and noticed a flushing around the galley came loose. Then I heard what sounded like metal scraping on the ground, noticed that we were veering to the left side of the runway. The pilot brought the aircraft to a halt just shy of the grass on the left side of the runway. When we stopped you could feel the aircraft leaning towards the port side and one could smell burnt rubber.
Jul 1, 2019, 8:51 pm
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I admit, it’s completely selfish, but they were truly the most comfy planes in the fleet ... and I believe the only 762’s around with the Signature Interior. Pretty spiffy for its day.
Heck of a premium bird. :-)
Jul 1, 2019, 9:05 pm
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Discussion from March 2013, linking the extending life of 762 due to 787 issues
Final flight for 767-200ER's
Inaugural UA Dreamliner / 787 flight was Nov 2012, Inaugural/early 787 flights FT meet-up thread
But this thread is about the recent hard-landed of an 752, so let's return to that discussion.
Final flight for 767-200ER's
Inaugural UA Dreamliner / 787 flight was Nov 2012, Inaugural/early 787 flights FT meet-up thread
But this thread is about the recent hard-landed of an 752, so let's return to that discussion.
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Jul 2, 2019, 12:27 am
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Sad to see it go.
As to a replacement, maybe one of the seven older 763s not slated to get Polaris and retired could get a new lease of life? That 752 had 169 seats (16J/153Y). Reprieving a 763 and converting to High J would be 167 seats though at 46J/22P+/99Y. I can see that working for a business heavy route. And for a mostly Y heavy route with potential (say EWR-MAN or IAD-DUB?) put one of the non P+ 763s (30J/184Y) and if necessary sell lots of TODs.
As to a replacement, maybe one of the seven older 763s not slated to get Polaris and retired could get a new lease of life? That 752 had 169 seats (16J/153Y). Reprieving a 763 and converting to High J would be 167 seats though at 46J/22P+/99Y. I can see that working for a business heavy route. And for a mostly Y heavy route with potential (say EWR-MAN or IAD-DUB?) put one of the non P+ 763s (30J/184Y) and if necessary sell lots of TODs.
Jul 2, 2019, 12:32 pm
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We had a pretty hard landing at EWR yesterday (UA 065, LIS-EWR, 767-400ER). Not hard enough to jam the landing gear up into the cabin but seemed surprisingly hard to me given the smooth glide to landing.